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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:56 PM
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oh please list your groundbreaking games that cannot be found elsewhere


starcraft 2 , diablo 3, crysis.... every game that is on console's are better on pc, for the many many, usual reasons, shooters are better, rpg's are better, rts games are better, and for anyone too retarded to use a keybpard: you can use a 360 control in just about every pc game, especially now.


thats quite a limited experience, now I see where you are coming from

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:59 PM
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thats quite a limited experience, now I see where you are coming from


you said games that cannot be had on console, the fact is that a lot of games are going multiplat, so there aren't that many nowadays, but it's also true that pc exclusives and even multiplats on pc are far superior to any console game. Take the goggles off, take a deep breath, and realise that you have no idea what your talking about. If 30 frames and 720 is "the best" for you then i'm happy for you to remain ignorant, but there are no games, not even crysis, that goes below 30 frames for me, and i've got to tell you, it looks good.

Now back to the thread: for me, 60 frames and lesser graphics> high settings and 30 frames, regardless of genre
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:08 PM
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@ Tatsumaki: PC games are generations ahead of consoles so by this generation, i obviously meant PS3/360. notice how this is in the PS3 section and not the PC gaming section? make your way over there 'cause you are obviously in the wrong zone. when Crysis comes out on a current gen console, then you could bring it up. but Uncharted 2 massacres everything on consoles, by a land slide. no argument, it's a fact.


It must be tearing you apart that theres no disagree button in the forums huh 


it must be tearing you apart that you PC fanboys spend hundreds of dollars upgrading your PC's every year for nothing 'cause you only get good games once, maybe twice, a year. Crysis is all you've got it seems, and even that is nothing more than a generic FPS. the mods are the only features that keep it alive but beyond that? people who complained about Killzone 2 and Halo 3 being "generic" should play Crysis. and then talk about the most overrated FPS on PC's.
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:10 PM
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:14 PM
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@ Tatsumaki: PC games are generations ahead of consoles so by this generation, i obviously meant PS3/360. notice how this is in the PS3 section and not the PC gaming section? make your way over there 'cause you are obviously in the wrong zone. when Crysis comes out on a current gen console, then you could bring it up. but Uncharted 2 massacres everything on consoles, by a land slide. no argument, it's a fact.


It must be tearing you apart that theres no disagree button in the forums huh 


it must be tearing you apart that you PC fanboys spend hundreds of dollars upgrading your PC's every year for nothing 'cause you only get good games once, maybe twice, a year. Crysis is all you've got it seems, and even that is nothing more than a generic FPS. the mods are the only features that keep it alive but beyond that? people who complained about Killzone 2 and Halo 3 being "generic" should play Crysis. and then talk about the most overrated FPS on PC's.





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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:15 PM
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it must be tearing you apart that you PC fanboys spend hundreds of dollars upgrading your PC's every year for nothing 'cause you only get good games once, maybe twice, a year. Crysis is all you've got it seems, and even that is nothing more than a generic FPS. the mods are the only features that keep it alive but beyond that? people who complained about Killzone 2 and Halo 3 being "generic" should play Crysis. and then talk about the most overrated FPS on PC's.


Haha keep telling yourself that we've envious of your last gen box. All the best multiplats come to pc, and look and play better, and the pc exclusives are awesome too.

You should see fallout 3, dead space or farcry 2 compared to the console version, it's night and day. We have starcraft 2: the greatest rts ever coming next year, diablo 3: the greatest rpg series ever coming soon as well. Crysis 2 is going to blow every ps3 shooter away. Doom 4 is going to run with dx11 effects on pc. Even now, but especially as time goes on, more and more people will be buying gaming pc's because they see what they're missing out on. Have you seen how many pc recommendation threads there are?, only those who can't afford it diss it.

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:25 PM
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It has t3h Crysus!!!11 IT HAS T3H GRAPHIX.


I don't recall any claims like that, the only claim like that was the "uncharted 2, the greatest graphics of this generation"

PC gamers don't speak like immature kids about games. Any claim about pc superiority is based in fact.....rather than uninformed opinion.


What facts are these then?

You list Crysis, but, Crysis (bar the graphics) was a ho-hum shooter with poor AI, stupid story and little else.

No one bought Crysis for the gameplay.

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
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Id rather have the better graphics
, i can't really tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps.


and have an overrated piece a crap like Killzone 2? Completely ruined because of the laggy control thanks to its powerful graphics and Vsync. Play Call of Duty and you'll never going back to that crap.

I don't care about frame-rate that much but when the gameplay of a game is ruined because of the graphics then I just prefer the higher frame-rate. Seriously.

How Killzone 2 scored a 91 in Metacritic it's beyond me.

-Maybe this is part of the explanation:

"As an interesting side-note, our team also found no direct correlation between gameplay scores and final scores, however it does appear that gameplay scores are also influenced by graphics scores. i.e. Better looking games appear to be more “fun” to reviewers, in general." -http://ow.ly/xqxp

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:32 PM
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What facts are these then?

You list Crysis, but, Crysis (bar the graphics) was a ho-hum shooter with poor AI, stupid story and little else.

No one bought Crysis for the gameplay.


You obviously have not played crysis. It was well above an average game. They are making it a sequel and have already made a spin off game, they are also not milking it, plenty was left unsaid, the game offered many tactical options, you could go stealth of full on combat, the ai was good, but had it's glitches, They respond to grenades, they flank you when they hear fire, they send up flares for re-enforcement when they need it, they will grab mounted guns or get in vehicles, or jump out and run when the vehicle is on fire, the a.i was awesome.

I have played crysis a lot more than other games because of it's replay-ability as you can approach combat completely differently each time, and the open world allows to to see or bypass different areas.

The main complaint about it was the heavy graphical requirements, but more than 2 years on it's still the best looking pc game, and in another 2 years when the hardware has caught up, everyone can play it as was intended, and they will realise that not only was it an amazing game in itself, but that even in 2 years it will still hold it's own graphically
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:34 PM
You can't win with the PC elitist
just let them enjoy their graphics and framerate, we will enjoy our great experiences and gameplay

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:36 PM
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You can't win with the PC elitist
just let them enjoy their graphics and framerate, we will enjoy our great experiences and gameplay


so playing fallout 3 and dead space, and far cry 2, and mirrors edge, and bioshock, and mass effect, and left 4 dead and fear 2 etc etc somehow have better gameplay on console's???, despite the fact that they have screen tear and choppy frame rates at low res??


more like "can't win with console fanboy's"
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:38 PM
BTW, the way I see things here, everybody's getting owned by @dchalfont 
so bad that it is not even funny.

And these are the same guys that have a gazillion of bubbles on the main site... Yep, fanboys. Probably, Sony Fanboys...
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:40 PM
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You can't win with the PC elitist
just let them enjoy their graphics and framerate, we will enjoy our great experiences and gameplay


so playing fallout 3 and dead space, and far cry 2, and mirrors edge, and bioshock, and mass effect, and left 4 dead and fear 2 etc etc somehow have better gameplay on console's???, despite the fact that they have screen tear and choppy frame rates at low res??


more like "can't win with ps3 fanboy's"


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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:43 PM
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@ Tatsumaki: PC games are generations ahead of consoles so by this generation, i obviously meant PS3/360. notice how this is in the PS3 section and not the PC gaming section? make your way over there 'cause you are obviously in the wrong zone. when Crysis comes out on a current gen console, then you could bring it up. but Uncharted 2 massacres everything on consoles, by a land slide. no argument, it's a fact.


It must be tearing you apart that theres no disagree button in the forums huh 


it must be tearing you apart that you PC fanboys spend hundreds of dollars upgrading your PC's every year for nothing 'cause you only get good games once, maybe twice, a year. Crysis is all you've got it seems, and even that is nothing more than a generic FPS. the mods are the only features that keep it alive but beyond that? people who complained about Killzone 2 and Halo 3 being "generic" should play Crysis. and then talk about the most overrated FPS on PC's.



sis is all you've got it seems, and even that is nothing more than a generic FPS. the mods are the only features that keep it alive but beyond


This is interesting because Killzone 2 it's as generic and boring as Crysis and they both have the same metacritic score. This kinda proves what the guy from insomniac said:

"As an interesting side-note, our team also found no direct correlation between gameplay scores and final scores, however it does appear that gameplay scores are also influenced by graphics scores. i.e. Better looking games appear to be more “fun” to reviewers, in general." -http://ow.ly/xqxp
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:44 PM
I don't no how this turned in to Console vs pc thread but i see no reason to own a gaming pc

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:47 PM
dchalfont

You obviously have not played crysis.

And you obviously fell into the trap of assuming I have not played Crysis before writing your essay there.

When I have.

And it's average at best and, if it wasn't for the pretty graphics, even less people would have cared.


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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:50 PM
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You can't win with the PC elitist
just let them enjoy their graphics and framerate, we will enjoy our great experiences and gameplay


so playing fallout 3 and dead space, and far cry 2, and mirrors edge, and bioshock, and mass effect, and left 4 dead and fear 2 etc etc somehow have better gameplay on console's???, despite the fact that they have screen tear and choppy frame rates at low res??


more like "can't win with console fanboy's"


I can play all those games in a console while enjoying better experiences from true exclusives, keep limiting yourself for your precious framerate

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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:22 PM
I agree that most of the time it isnt noticeable, however in some cases it really is needed. I cant even fathom playing CoD without 60 FPS, those games are so damn smooth and precise it would really be a downgrade to go to 30 FPS. Still I dont really have a problem with other FPS like Bioshock or KZ2, they arent as precise sure but they play fine.

God of War at 30 FPS wouldnt bother me, but yes for FPS it would be greatly appreciated, and for fighting games and racing games its necessary IMO.


Edit: More important than having 30 or 60 FPS is just having a consistent FPS, its extremely annoying when the FPS is fluctuating a lot in a game.
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:25 PM
I will now show you people a bunch of subliminal pictures, which show why consoles have the advantage:










That will be all :)
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Re:30fps better graphics or 60fps Lower graphics - Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:27 PM
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I will now show you people a bunch of subliminal pictures, which show why consoles have the advantage:










That will be all :)


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