That's why Insomniac has sucked with the Resistance games. All they are caring about are performance and graphics. Put your efforts on gameplay!

lol @ the pc fanboys

i have alot more fun sitting on my couch with a controller in my hand than staring at a moniter less than a foot away with one hand on a mouse and the other trying to hit a letter to move my character.

That's my opinion and apparently from sales alot of ppl agree.

if u like gaming on your computer then fine (i could care less) but dont act like a jerk because we dont liek your style of playing.

On topic about this thread...

i would take the better graphics over 60 fps in the case of Insomniac produced games. i think they need to improve the graphics in resistance. matter of fact didnt resistance run smoothly at 30fps?

cuz if so then they definitly need to focus on graphics instead of frames

FaZtKiLLaR


I don't no how this turned in to Console vs pc thread but i see no reason to own a gaming pc

I have to agree with you, this had potential to be a intelligent discussion thread, but instead in turned into the main page.

@Tatsumaki

So can you play N64 games and the such?

And can you instantly hop on and play your favorite games ?

Just listing some console advantages :)

Homicide


That's why Insomniac has sucked with the Resistance games. All they are caring about are performance and graphics. Put your efforts on gameplay!

alot of ppl liked the gameplay of resistance games so will u pipe down plz

u need to realize that just because their game didnt cater to ur tastes, doesnt mean it didnt cater to anyone elses.

thedisagreefairy

Homicide


That's why Insomniac has sucked with the Resistance games. All they are caring about are performance and graphics. Put your efforts on gameplay!

alot of ppl liked the gameplay of resistance games so will u pipe down plz

u need to realize that just because their game didnt cater to ur tastes, doesnt mean it didnt cater to anyone elses.

Resistance 2 was a failure. Insomniac acknowledge that.

dchalfont

MariusElijah


oh please list your groundbreaking games that cannot be found elsewhere

starcraft 2 , diablo 3, crysis.... every game that is on console's are better on pc, for the many many, usual reasons, shooters are better, rpg's are better, rts games are better, and for anyone too retarded to use a keybpard: you can use a 360 control in just about every pc game, especially now.

I'll give you Diablo 3.  That is one of my most anticipated games, for sure.  Diablo 2 is still one of my all-time favorites.  Starcraft 2, I'll grant you is apparently going to be an amazing game, sequel to what's apparently the most amazing RTS ever, but I don't personally like RTS games, so it doesn't mean anything to me.

And Crysis?  Crysis is a barren wasteland of boredom, it has no artistic style whatsoever and the developer's completely failed to DESIGN a game.  It's just one big, realistic looking island.  But it completely fails in terms of design.  It has some cool mechanics with your suit of armor and the special abilities it lends you, but it gets old quick because there's a serious lacking of unique enemies, weapons, objectives, and environments.  It's just a boring game with no personality.

And I'd much rather look at Uncharted 2 than Crysis.  The world is brimming with personality, vibrancy, artistic design, etc.  And about low draw distance?  What?  You haven't even played the game, have you?  It's absolutely stunning to look at, and it has a vast draw distance.  Low res textures?  Again, you haven't even played the game, I bet.  The textures are very high-res and detailed.   Uncharted 2 may not rival Crysis in terms of realism but it whoops its ass in terms of pretty-ness.

"I can play all those games in a console while enjoying better experiences from true exclusives, keep limiting yourself for your precious framerate"

Quote of the year right there....apparently i'm limiting myself to better framerates....you kids crack me up.

Props to bodyboarder and kingvulcan.

mariah....you really are a fool, "true exclusives.."?, there is only one kind of exclusive.....an exclusive....you know a game that comes to one platform and one platform alone.....all exclusives are "true exclusives"

I'll enjoy limiting myself to 1680*1050 maxed settings, 16qaa, 16af, v-sync and triple buffering, with massive draw distances, high res textures, dx10 effects and constant 60frames per second. I don't know how i live with my handicap.

Again for the uninformed: pc can be connected to a hdtv via hdmi, and you can also connect a 360 control which is natively supported by windows, and it can be used in all modern games....but of course no pc gamer would prefer that over the accuracy and customise-ability of a keyboard and mouse

people's opinion of the game crysis does not change the fact that pc has better graphics than consoles, that is the point of the comparison, there are a *** load of games on every platform with weak gameplay. This discussion is about high graphics vs frame rates, and someone claimed UC2 had the best graphics of this gen...WRONG!. Even alot of this gens multiplats look better on pc than uc2 does.  "crysis sucks" is not an argument agains the fact that i have stated. That's just an immature fanboy comeback

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To answer the question truthfully :), it pretty much depends on the genre/game they're making.

dchalfont


"I can play all those games in a console while enjoying better experiences from true exclusives, keep limiting yourself for your precious framerate"

Quote of the year right there....apparently i'm limiting myself to better framerates....you kids crack me up.

Props to bodyboarder and kingvulcan.

mariah....you really are a fool, "true exclusives.."?, there is only one kind of exclusive.....an exclusive....you know a game that comes to one platforma and one platform alone.....all exclusives are "true exclusives"

I'll enjoy limiting myself to 1680*1050 maxed settings, 16qaa, 16af, v-sync and triple buffering, with massive draw distances, high res textures, dx10 effects and constant 60frames per second. I don't know how i live with my handicap.

Again for the uninformed: pc can be connected to a hdtv via hdmi, and you can also connect a 360 control which is natively supported by windows, and it can be used in all modern games....but of course no pc gamer would prefer that over the accuracy and customise-ability of a keyboard and mouse

How big did your nerd hard on get while typing that?

Max Power


How big did your nerd hard on get while typing that?

I don't get hard over games, i'll leave that to the kiddies

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Max Power


How big did your nerd hard on get while typing that?

I don't get hard over games, i'll leave that to the kiddies

I dont get hard over specs, i'll leave that to the kiddies


Back on topic: Insomniac needs better graphics

Hellangelzx


@Tatsumaki

So can you play N64 games and the such?

And can you instantly hop on and play your favorite games ?

Just listing some console advantages :)

uhhh yeah Emulators
I can play any N64 games for free (I also still have my n64 with all its awesome games tho xD)
dreamcast games
ps games 
DS games gameboy advance/color games. 

and configure my controller to match the game I'm playing

all the games are also scaled up

yup I can emulate all those...
did i mention it was free.

And here's the flamewar.

Thread lock iminent. (I'm aware I spelled this wrong)

Hellangelzx


And here's the flamewar.

Thread lock imminent. (fixed)

It's actually a shame, because this thread had potential.  Well, before the pc crew rolled up and started bustin' super spec caps into the console gangs a$$.

ha yeah...this is as off topic and useless as 'is the PS3 dead?' articles on the front page...
 
argue about graphics all you want...yeah, we get it...PC games have the best 'graphics' always...they are more powerful, more open, and the 'easiest' to develop for...
 
but make no mistake about it...'most' of the true talent in game development does NOT focus on PC games...they don't do it because nobody buys PC games anymore...this generation has been flooded with groundbreaking games coming FIRST to consoles...Gears of War, GTAIV, Bioshock, MGS4, LBP, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2...etc... are easily some of the best games of this generation that were all on consoles first...and only a few ended up on PC...yeah the PC got...Crysis...the highest rated PC only game in years...in 2007...and what since?...we all know that some elephants are looming on the horizon...but you guys really find it necessary to pay all that money on upgrades simply to have superior versions of relatively average games?...I don't get it i guess...I used to be PC only, which ended around Doom3 when I realized the game I had been excited for for almost 10 years ended up being a graphics powerhouse with gameplay that was absolutely horrid...half life 2 was great, but not nearly enough to keep me away from all the stuff coming to consoles even then...
 
 
but also...dig a bit deeper with your graphics analysis please...show me a PC game that has as fluid animation as killzone 2...or a hit detection system as realistic...does Crysis have a lighting system that has muzzle flares creating real time shadows around everything in the environment?...both killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 do things with lighting and animation that NO PC game has touched yet...thats not that a PC is not capable of it...its that developers that put that much effort into a title don't make PC games apparently...GTAIV for example...yeah it had way higher resolution and AA, but was nearly impossible to run on even the best hardware at the time...and...no...one...bought...it...
 
starcraft 2 and Diablo 2 will be great...but what else?...you guys are sitting around talking about how great a game from 2007 was/is...that was the last big exclusive the PC got...I don't know about any of you PC only guys, but doesn't that bother you a little?...its a little sad to STILL see PC kids screaming about old games while everyone else at least argues about stuff that came out in the last few months...yeah, its all great that you can enjoy the best version of some average multiplat on your gaming rig...but calm down with PCs being the alpha and omega of gaming...it hasn't been that way for over a decade...whether you like it or not, PCs are turning more and more into free online puzzlers and mmo's that are a completely different demographic to you graphics whores...you think publishers aren't aware that even the PS3 versions of crappy multiplats triple the sales of the PC versions?...the wheels have been falling off your wagon for years...

No i just corrected a "UC2 is TEH BEST!" statement with common sense...and people couldn't take it

Tatsumaki is right, i can play any pc game from any generation, I can even play ps2 games on my pc, even current ps3's can't do that, hows that fpr backwards compatibility, I can play every game from every previous console, with extra AA etc.....wow, what can't pc do...

@Kleptic

"both killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 do things with lighting and animation that NO PC game has touched yet"- WRONG

elaborate for me what new ground has been broken with those games... the consoles are stuck in dx9, and the ps3 doesn't even use that. There is nothing graphically on console that has not been done on pc. Maybe you hav not played any pc games in recent years, see the clips on the previous page for your eduation.



just so you know: bioshock sold more than 50% of it's sales ( from the 3 platforms) on pc. PC IS the alpha and omega of gaming, console's are struggling to remain profitable, where as steam is raking in the money. In a few years time when console hardware is even more expensive, people won't buy console's they will just upgrade their pc's, PC hardware sales have increased by 21% in this last quarter...pc is experiencing more growth than the console industry. Like i have said over and over, most devs are going multiplat because there is more money from the 3 platfroms, but if you think valve, or blizzard, or even gearbox with borderlands will sell more on the consoles then you are very mistaken, and as above, multiplats are better on pc, and always will be, so I see no reason to get a console for a few exclusives, when when I can have all the pc exclusives as well as all the multiplats which are better

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What the F*ck happened here?

 
Back on topic, Console dude here, but Pc's are just superior to consoles no doubt. If they want they can play with improved graphics and at 60fps.

    

dchalfont


No i just corrected a "UC2 is TEH BEST!" statement with common sense...and people couldn't take it

Tatsumaki is right, i can play any pc game from any generation, I can even play ps2 games on my pc, even current ps3's can't do that, hows that fpr backwards compatibility, I can play every game from every previous console, with extra AA etc.....wow, what can't pc do...

@Kleptic

just so you know: bioshock sold more than 50% of it's sales ( from the 3 platforms) on pc. PC IS the alpha and omega of gaming, console's are struggling to remain profitable, where as steam is raking in the money. In a few years time when console hardware is even more expensive, people won't buy console's they will just upgrade their pc's, PC hardware sales have increased by 21% in this last quarter...pc is experiencing more growth than the console industry. Like i have said over and over, most devs are going multiplat because there is more money from the 3 platfroms, but if you think valve, or blizzard, or even gearbox with borderlands will sell more on the consoles then you are very mistaken

lol apparently no one cares what pc's can do except for a few of u diehards...sorry :)

thedisagreefairy


lol apparently no one cares what pc's can do except for a few of u diehards...sorry :)

I'm not sure what you mean by no one, because every time there is a clip posted of a new pc game, people say "wow the console's really are getting outdated fast".

There are more pc exclusives every year than all of the console's and handheld's combined- fact.
There are more pc gamers than console gamers- fact.

Your bias is unbelievable, I have owned console's all my life, every single nintendo console and handheld, a ps2, and an x-box

but this generation fell flat, pc's had surpased the potential before the console's were even released, i saw no reason to restrict myself and downgrade. I'm not a "pc elitist", i just have a pc as well so i know which is better.

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