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Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 20:32:34

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ok so when I first got my ps3 back in july I formated my harddrive. I really don't know why I guess I just did so because it was there. I don't know what formating something dose. Can anyone here tell me what formating my ps3 dose and what happens if you don't format your ps3?

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:11:36

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Isn't it just when you wipe your hard drive clean? To its default settings?

I'm not sure but I once formatted my old iRiver MP3 player...madness ensued

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:12:56

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You shouldn't have to format your harddrive unless you experience some errors or the system tells you. It's not like "disk cleanup."

It could reset your settings, delete data, or both. I formatted so I could make a partition for Linux, but I did this right when I got my PS3 so nothing was lost.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:13:30

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It wipes out all information on the hard drive. Once you restart your PS3 after a format (full formats are better but take longer) you will start from scratch with everything and you better hope you saved all of your save data and anything else you didn't already have a copy of.

All of this is true unless you install Linux. For some reason even after a full three and a half hour format you cannot get your hard drive space back. That's why I never recommend anyone install it. My 60Gb PS3 is now limited to only 47Gbs max because of a Linux that just won't go away.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:15:28

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Actually Linux makes your PS3 37GB my friend. 47GB is actually WITHOUT Linux on a 60GB. It's actually a 55GB HDD with 8GB taken up by the OS and etc. A complete rip-off in terms of "60GB model," for sure. This is why it seems to you that Linux is taking up that space. Sadly, it isn't. With Linux, it's more like a 40GB model (37GB).

When I formatted for Linux I noticed my gamesaves were gone, but it didn't seem to affect the installed game data I had for R:FOM.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:21:20

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You should have to format your harddrive unless you experience some errors or the system tells you. It's not like "disk cleanup."

Shut me up.

lol I just realized your now from GTA. haha your going to confuse people!

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:23:59

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I messed up, I meant "you shouldn't have to format"**

Heh. Only Canadians will figure that one out.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 21:55:50

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Got it...

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 22:12:49

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I messed up, I meant "you shouldn't have to format"**

Heh. Only Canadians will figure that one out.

Thats why we keep em around.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 22:36:04

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If only that were true. After installing YDL, I still had over 40Gb's. I wish that were the case because I've already contacted Sony customer service about this and they don't even have a clue.

A 60Gb PS3 does not go down to 37Gb after installing YDL. I don't know what version of Linux you installed, but creating a partition for YDL only requires 10Gb, and even after installation I had over 40.

The 55Gb that you speak of minus 8Gb that you speak of equals out to 47Gb by the way, not 37Gb.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 22:47:39

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I don't know what you're talking about. My 60GB is 55GB in true capacity, and 47GB after I updated the firmware. 37 after the 10GB for Linux is gone.

You must be wrong, if you repartitioned your drive without Linux, it will delete the allocated space. It did for me.

" The 55Gb that you speak of minus 8Gb that you speak of equals out to 47Gb by the way, not 37Gb."

The hell are you talking about? I stated that. 47GB by default. 37GB after partioning.

Why can't you get beyond 47? Because you can't.

I just confirmed the same thing with 3 more 60GBers.

It doesn't matter what version of Linux you install. The partition is 10GB. Unless you ran it off the install disc and never made a partition.

Either way, you'll see that you cannot get more than 47GB.

Lastly, before you ask me why the mysterious 8GB is missing from the 47GB by default, here's your answer:

"the HDD is formatted so the system takes that space for updates, its applications and so forth; you could upgrade to a bigger HDD if you're unhappy for around 70 bucks, before you stuff it."

No matter what Linux you install has no effect. The partition is 10GB, you cannot choose yourself. The way you say it is as though you were not aware of this, thus I question whether you even installed it correctly. You cannot get more than 47GB, end of story.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 23:51:37

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First off, in all seriousness, I defintely had over 40Gb to save to after installing YDL. I only know because I almost filled it up.

Also, that's almost the answer I've been wanting all along. Please don't think I'm trying to argue. If anything I've been trying to find someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. And I know the partition is always 10. That's the most baffling part considering your quote.

"the HDD is formatted so the system takes that space for updates, its applications and so forth; you could upgrade to a bigger HDD if you're unhappy for around 70 bucks, before you stuff it."

I'm asking because I don't know where that last quote comes from about the HDD taking up 8Gb's for firmware updates (considering only 47 is left after uninstalling and 55 always seemed to be the max)? I only ask because the quote you use doesn't specify that it even takes 8Gb's.

One more thing I want to ask, since it seems you've gone through this. Why does my PS3 still recognize Linux as an alternate OS after a full format? it doesn't completely load YDL but it stills starts the seperate OS.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-15th-2008 23:58:15

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First off, in all seriousness, I defintely had over 40Gb to save to after installing YDL. I only know because I almost filled it up.

Also, that's almost the answer I've been wanting all along. Please don't think I'm trying to argue. If anything I've been trying to find someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. And I know the partition is always 10. That's the most baffling part considering your quote.

"the HDD is formatted so the system takes that space for updates, its applications and so forth; you could upgrade to a bigger HDD if you're unhappy for around 70 bucks, before you stuff it."

I'm asking because I don't know where that last quote comes from about the HDD taking up 8Gb's for firmware updates (considering only 47 is left after uninstalling and 55 always seemed to be the max)? I only ask because the quote you use doesn't specify that it even takes 8Gb's.

One more thing I want to ask, since it seems you've gone through this. Why does my PS3 still recognize Linux as an alternate OS after a full format? it doesn't completely load YDL but it stills starts the seperate OS.

Lol, no worries.

Ok, the installer originally used for Linux is remembered by the PS3. It will probably give you the "Default OS" option indefinitely.

That quote came from the PS forums, after numerous complaints for 47GB drives rather than 60GB -- it was an old quote, and the people who were pondering had not even installed/partitioned anything beyond the latest firmware. The reason that 8GB or so is protected is so the PS3 OS is protected: it cannot be deleted and space for it cannot be compromised.

The 55GB thingy is of course that the HDD itself is never the size advertised. Like my Maxtor "300GB" external HDD is 279GB, and so forth.

Now. You can technically use Linux w/o partioning as well, so it doesn't technically require a 10GB partition, but I never did this myself. I did the partioning, which killed me to 37GB without anything else on. Even with no Linux installed (I removed it for now, will reinstall Xubuntu later), it still gives me the "Other OS" option. I can repartition to free up 10GB but it will be useless since I will eventually install Linux later.

I hope that cleared up something.

Another thing: Linux partition = 10GB. PS3 OS partition = 8GB, or so it seems. It seems you may be confusing these. (Those 8GB are not useable by the user in any case, which is why the system has 47GB of space to work with.)

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-16th-2008 0:07:51

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Another thing: Linux partition = 10GB. PS3 OS partition = 8GB, or so it seems. It seems you may be confusing these.

I'm not big on believing stuff from forums, but since I don't see any evidence otherwise, I guess I have no choice (considering the size of the PS3 OS).

Anyway, I'll take your word for the rest of it because it honestly makes sense considering all of the full formats I've done.

Anyway, kudos to you my friend for having info that I have been trying to find out for so long. Thank you.

It's just annoying though because I started a thread about this very same topic about a week ago and no one replied.

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-16th-2008 0:20:21

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Heh, if I'd have seen that thread I would've replied.

Yeah, the 47GB issue was something that was incredulously divulged since it didn't seem to agree with logic - a 60GB HDD with 47GB free space, is a major "WTF."

So I didn't understand what was wrong at first, thus I did major digging, and found the annoying truth. A 55GB HDD - fair enough - with 8GB permanently reserved and beyond your control for the PS3 OS and firmware - not fair.

But what can you do? I guess if worst comes to worst, we can always buy bigger HDDs, or delete game data from older games. =/

Linux partioning bringing the system down to 37GB is a serious bummer too. But at least we have all that AND more space than a 40GB owner. Hah. (I've no clue how much space the system takes by default for them, but I am certain with Linux they would have well under 30GB.)

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-16th-2008 0:36:48

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I plan on upgrading to a 320GB HDD soon.

Also, Format HDD = Erase all data

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-16th-2008 1:32:59

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I plan on upgrading to a 320GB HDD soon.

I am planning on something close to that too.

When I backup the hard drive onto an external, doesn't the external need to be a certain type or something?

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RE: Format my PS3? - Apr.-16th-2008 14:47:40

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ORIGINAL: John_V

I plan on upgrading to a 320GB HDD soon.

I am planning on something close to that too.

When I backup the hard drive onto an external, doesn't the external need to be a certain type or something?