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I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:11:15

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Sony positioned the PS3 as a media server/games console for the living room. I am slightly interested in the game part, but more in the media capability of the console. With inputs from all machines, PC, camera,, network, internet I have, outputting it to my TV, Amp, PSP, and other devices.
I want to get rid of my PC hanging next to my tv (as well as a sat box, a DTV converter) and Sony kind of promised to solve part of my 'get-rid-of-my-pc' issue.

Why don't I get access to my network and simply play the movies and music that I want (I accept file compatibility limitations) without needing a PC to stream, cause I could keep the PC at the same place then.
When I want to play an Internet Radio stream, why doesn't my PS3 just play it (Icecast, shoutcast, iceberg, etc, etc)

What i have now, is a machine that needs another machine (a pc) to convert everything in a low format, streaming, to lurk my network. I expected a powerful device to handle all media content, and push it to my TV and Amp to get a superior experience. now I get a downgraded, mediocre rip off of something that looks familiar but fails all the ingredients I need and expected. Did I invest tens of thousands of Euros in a TV, Amp, Loudspeakers, media storage to have the PS3 downgraded to an improved PS2, which can just handle a higher image resolution?

summarized, I have a machine that:
- doesn't have access in my network to the files I want to play
- has a broswer, that (almost) doesn't support any media format
- should act as a server, but only plays direct input media such as DVD or BD
- is upgraded frequenty with new firmware more to protect the machine from malicious hacking as to add true valuable functionality
- doesn't play any of the content it owns through the pictures division, or music through the music divison, other then buying the disk...
Damn, you have all the cards in your hands! you are a large player in the movies business, music business and gaming business - with own content - , don't just throw it away for a quick win in the gaming segment only.

Did I buy an upgraded PS2 or does the PS3 have a future as a media hub (I trust that the blockbusters will make it a success in the gaming world, no worry therre)
Pls Sony, spend your resources on more stuff than frame rate issues with a particular developer, overstretched Home ambition.. just do as you promised and make this machine the media hub as promised, the quality hardware is there, you just need to open up some of the capabilities through software.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:23:15

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I gotta agree with you. But I do believe in Sony to fix most of the things you mentioned with upgrades soon. Remember, we've come a long way since launch though

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:37:31

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Stop whining, convert all your media into PS3-compatible formats (google it, there's a lot of them), buy a large hard drive for your PS3, and maybe even add a 500GB external, and just play everything right from your PS3.

If you really want to use your PS3 as a media center, then just put everything ON YOUR PS3.

It's really not that hard to do.

Your complaints are mostly unfounded and easily solved.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:39:42

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Oh and as far as the browser thing goes...

We don't have a fully-featured browser yet, because of the security risks a fully-featured browser would bring to your PS3.

Ever thought of that?

Please....understand that while marketed as a media machine, the PLAYStation...emphasis on PLAY, is a game machine first and foremost.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:41:36

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"Only plays direct-input media such as DVD or BD"

WTF is wrong with you?

Are you seriously claiming that the PS3 only plays disks?

Do you even own a PS3?

Holy ****, that's retarded.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:44:13

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John_V, could you calm down? And edit your posts instead of putting 3 posts in a row. Please...

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:45:59

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what else does it play, except disks and streams?

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:49:46

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quote:

- doesn't have access in my network to the files I want to play
- has a broswer, that (almost) doesn't support any media format
- should act as a server, but only plays direct input media such as DVD or BD
- is upgraded frequenty with new firmware more to protect the machine from malicious hacking as to add true valuable functionality
- doesn't play any of the content it owns through the pictures division, or music through the music divison, other then buying the disk...

That's really pushing it.

Doesn't have access in my network to the files I want to play - YOUR FAULT

Has a browser that (almost) doesn't support any media format - NOT PRIORITY

Should act as a server, but only plays direct-input media such as DVD or BD - HIGHLY INCORRECT / YOUR FAULT / THE PLAYSTATION 3 IS NOT A SERVER, NOR WAS IT EVER ADVERTISED AS BEING SUCH

Doesn't play any of the content it owns through the pictures division, or music through the music divison, other then buying the disk - WTF? You want to watch a Blu-ray....buy the ****ing disk. You want to watch a DVD? Stream it or make it into a divx file and put it on your PS3. You want music? Stream it, or COPY IT ONTO YOUR PS3.

Bellyache, bellyache, whine whine whine...can't anyone just enjoy something they purchase nowadays?

Unbelievable.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:52:39

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to nickfr:

It plays files you put on your hard drive, that's what else it does.

The whole point of divx certification was so people would stop bitching about having to use TVersity with a PC, so they could just play divx content right from their PS3.

The PS3 is meant to have everything played directly from the console. It's designed to handle a bunch of media formats NATIVELY, so just go with that, and stick your media ONTO your PS3, or use an external USB hard drive.

It's really not that hard.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:53:37

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No offense, but as a media hub, the thing is a miracle.

However: To solve all your problems I suggest getting an HTPC with MediaPortal. You'll never stop thanking me.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:54:23

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@mr Swede, long way, but not nearly to the level promised.
believe me, I love how the way the machine works, I love its reliability, the quality.. but it's not a media hub

@ John V
right what I mentioned, so I need to buy 4 different disks, copy all, to play the same content in each of the rooms. That's why they invented networks.
@ John V again.. perhaps a momentary laps of brain loss.. i forgive you. read my post again and you understand what i talk about.

about the browser security: why take a non-market standard browser. we need the updates now to solve proprietary issues. it would have been easier to follow a Linux best or Mozilla (if there would be a difference in that). BTW it's not the browser but the plug-ins that is killing the PS3. the browser can brse almost all, it's the support, or implemantation of media plug-ins that is fully lacking.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:55:48

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MediaPortal?

Do explain, I haven't tried anything except Tversity.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:58:33

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@ dr pirate
thanks for your suggestion
I have used a couple of media centers including your suggestion. until a few months ago the response on remote controls was slow and in general the system was buggy. I don't know the latest release, but when I used it it was still in beta release, and felt likewise. I guess they must be close to a release candidate of a real system.

That would be an opportunity lost by the PS3 wouldn't it?

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:58:34

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Why don't all you whiners just put on the song "My Way" by Frank Sinatra, and listen to it a thousand times?

Jeez...

The PS3 is more than I could EVER ask for from a GAME CONSOLE.

IT'S A GAME CONSOLE, PEOPLE.

START TREATING IT LIKE ONE.

Lower your expectations just a teensy bit, ok? You'll save yourself some hurt.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 12:59:55

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John V, should I copy all claims of Ken katuragi??
the fact that Sony scaled down their ambition doesn't mean I agree!

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 13:06:23

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putting one thing clear:
i said that
as a HUB the PS3 sucks

as a PLAYER of direct input media it is excellent

if you think it is normal to copy a Terabyte of media content to every room, you're right.. the PS# is the excellent solution to every media wish
but my media collection expands every day, should I copy 4 times a terabyte, plus updates? that's ridiculous

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 13:09:07

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John V, should I copy all claims of Ken katuragi??
the fact that Sony scaled down their ambition doesn't mean I agree!

You just screwed yourself there.

Those are not CLAIMS by Ken Kutagari.

Those are AMBITIONS and HOPES. They were NEVER PROMISED to ANYONE.

Don't try to say they were, either.

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 13:18:05

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are you kidding????
Ken promised all, including some over done statements on hardware layout.
Sony never talked about hope or ambition.

Why are you trying to protect something that is a big issue (for some, at least me) with some kind of loyalty to a company that didn't keep it's promises?
I'm not trolling, or saying that another system is better, cause all the other systems even suck more.
I just want Somy to act on its promises and don't take the shortcut to make the PS3 a game-system only. is that difficult to understand? I'm trying to start a discussion to make YOUR system better, not telling you that your system sucks vs MS or Wii!

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 13:19:11

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quote:

ORIGINAL: nickfr

putting one thing clear:
i said that
as a HUB the PS3 sucks

as a PLAYER of direct input media it is excellent

if you think it is normal to copy a Terabyte of media content to every room, you're right.. the PS# is the excellent solution to every media wish
but my media collection expands every day, should I copy 4 times a terabyte, plus updates? that's ridiculous

With that much media, you really need something professional. I won't lie, maybe the PS3 isn't enough to handle your needs, it IS a possibility. Before my PS3 (and before I started caring about HD) I converted an old PC into a linux media computer with media portal. For what I wanted it to do, it worked well. I really think the PS3 isn't up to snuff with your needs so you might need to invest a little more.

But I completely get what you're saying. They sell it as a great media center (and it is great for basic functionality) but it won't go over and beyond savvy?

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RE: I'm frustrated about the ps3 compatibility - Apr.-19th-2008 13:24:25

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@dr Pirate
I probably hoped we got into a next gen
not only in HD resolution, but also in connectivity

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