So people are slowly starting to talk about the ps4 and xbox720. I started on the 360 and recently bought a ps3. I know it is ineviatable that these consoles will come out, it's called competition. I for one don't want to see these consoles comeing out for 3-4 more years or until we truely see an advance that justifies a new console.
 
1. I feel like I personally have barely made a dent in what this current generation has to offer.
 
2. This gen of console has been the most expensive I've seen, I'm having a hard time keeping up as it is, I don't want to be shelling out even more for the next big thing.
 
3. The graphics this gen have gone a long way to being realistic enough to satisfy me. Games like KZ2 and coming GoW3. For me until the majority of games are pushing the systems to there limits like KZ2 I don't see a need to improve graphics, they are already amazing.
 
4. I just don't see a justification for a new console that warrants me to shell out the money, so what are ya'lls opinions?
 
Just an update and on a side note:
 
The ps3 I feel as far as hardware has the best chance for longevity with it's blu-ray. It's why I bought one, was for blu-ray, I felt like my 360 and its dvd was being left behind.
 
If microsoft instead of releasing a 720 upgraded its 360 with its hard drive issues and include blu-ray to go with the ps3 slim, I think it could work.
  
 

It won't happen for awhile, if you take a look at the amount of game releases for a consoles lifetime, then we aren't even halfway or a quarter done with this generation.  Each gen is going to last longer and longer as dev times increase.

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I think the biggest thing PS3 gamers fail to realize is that this generation started in 2005. The PS3 came out late and limped out of the gates, this seems to have caused a "This generation has just started" type thinking among many PS3 only owners.

While I do agree with Max Power that this generation will be longer than previous generations due to the Dev times, Economy and the high prices of these consoles. I still don't think it is as far off as some people think.

I say by 2012 there will be new consoles, which is still a 2 year longer run than the seemingly 5 year cycles we have been used to. I think again you will see MS have an advantage for a while on the next console as well due to them being a software company and having better dev tools and the new X-Engine I am sure is geared with the next console in mind. Therefore helping ease the burden on devs working with the next gen system.

With all that said though I think in the next few years is when we will see some tremendous games. Especially on the PS3 side. 360 will have a few surprise gems too but PS3 is at the point where the games are finally ready to shine and the devs have a good handle on the system.

No matter what a next gen console is a day 1 purchase for me...Whoever gets there first is what I will own. I love having a new console. It is magical...

Syko 360


I think the biggest thing PS3 gamers fail to realize is that this generation started in 2005. The PS3 came out late and limped out of the gates, this seems to have caused a "This generation has just started" type thinking among many PS3 only owners.

While I do agree with Max Power that this generation will be longer than previous generations due to the Dev times, Economy and the high prices of these consoles. I still don't think it is as far off as some people think.

I say by 2012 there will be new consoles, which is still a 2 year longer run than the seemingly 5 year cycles we have been used to. I think again you will see MS have an advantage for a while on the next console as well due to them being a software company and having better dev tools and the new X-Engine I am sure is geared with the next console in mind. Therefore helping ease the burden on devs working with the next gen system.

With all that said though I think in the next few years is when we will see some tremendous games. Especially on the PS3 side. 360 will have a few surprise gems too but PS3 is at the point where the games are finally ready to shine and the devs have a good handle on the system.

No matter what a next gen console is a day 1 purchase for me...Whoever gets there first is what I will own. I love having a new console. It is magical...

I forsee the PS3 lasting until the Xbox 1080... teh power of teh cell baby

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I am thinking, if the xbox 3 does come out first then it had better improve on graphics and what not quite substantially otherwise Sony could possibly hold out on the PS4 and keep going with the PS3 (depending on whether its selling well). This could hurt Microsofts head start because people might not have a good enough reason to buy a next gen console. I worded that so poorly.

o no I agree with you completely. Sony as far as longevity when it comes to being on the cutting edge definately has a hands up with the ps3. MS only problem right now is their storage/dvd issue. If it was me I'd be pleased enough is microsoft just did an update on the 360...instead of 720 you have a 360 but with a better hard drive situation and blu-ray

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But seriously, given the high cost of developing and implementing a new console, and given the current (and likely future) economic climate, I think the existing consoles will last a while before their successors arrive. I think Natal will expand the 360 in the same sense as a new console launch, as will Sony's motion controller.

I wouldn't expect new consoles until 2011 at the earliest, and I think Nintendo that will jump the gun with a new/revamped Wii before we see anything new from MS and Sony.

There's still a LOT of life left in this gen.

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In general said: this gen will be longer then about the average 5 years already for one thing alone...

The past gens had old hardware on board already when they launched, compared to the PC market. This gen had bleeding edge high tech stuff on board that was even not/hot on the PC market. Just compare this:
 
XBOX 1: Celeron 733mhz CPU, Geforce 3 GPU and 64MB Ram. Launched at the end of 2001, while this stuff was on the PC market for what, 3 years at least at that point in time? PS2/Gamecube same story.
 
360/PS3 had stuff inside that wasn't on the market, or very expensive. The triple core PowerPC 3.2 Ghz each core was the CPU that Apple never got (and they jumped ship to Intel), and a triple core CPU for PC at the end of 2005 costed what, 800 bucks or so? The GPU, special build was as powerfull as the newest PC GPU cards at that time, and those even didn't have a second die with 10MB to do some AA stuff 'for free'. Only the Ram dissapointed me a bit on both, 512MB. If they put in 1GB it would have been a bit more future proof.
 
On the other hand, hardware improves maybe even on a faster rate, so I personally would still like the 5 to 6 years lifecycle and buy new stuff but well...

On the other hand, both MS and Sony will look at Nintendo how they catched the casual market. Because of that (boooo Nintendo) we might see them upgrading for next gen with not too big steps compared to the current gen consoles and will focus more on controls (as Natal) and the software interface to make things easier (pictures and not only words, like NXE, something were XMB lacks appeal to others then hardcore gamers).
Microsoft has the upperhand in this all, as software companies are much more flexible, also to redirect their hardware they can shift to who ever they like to produce.

Whats the most interesting part in all this, is to see what Nintendo will do. Will they release a Wii HD in 2010 to be able to catch the market again (now that sales go down), maybe the Wii 1.0 buyers then again can be hyped for upgrading?
 
 

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I am thinking, if the xbox 3 does come out first then it had better improve on graphics and what not quite substantially otherwise Sony could possibly hold out on the PS4 and keep going with the PS3 (depending on whether its selling well). This could hurt Microsofts head start because people might not have a good enough reason to buy a next gen console. I worded that so poorly.

Wut? The 360 and PS3 can do about the same, don't be stupid now. Both consoles have its advantages in certain small areas but overall they'll be able to do the same. Sony can't miss out on the next gen launch and be late to the party again. Sony will try to be out first, or at least at the same time as Microsoft.
 
 

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joe382


I am thinking, if the xbox 3 does come out first then it had better improve on graphics and what not quite substantially otherwise Sony could possibly hold out on the PS4 and keep going with the PS3 (depending on whether its selling well). This could hurt Microsofts head start because people might not have a good enough reason to buy a next gen console. I worded that so poorly.

Wut? The 360 and PS3 can do about the same, don't be stupid now. Both consoles have its advantages in certain small areas but overall they'll be able to do the same. Sony can't miss out on the next gen launch and be late to the party again. Sony will try to be out first, or at least at the same time as Microsoft.
 
 

Yeah I know they are similiar but I am thinking what if Microsoft release a new console TOO early, in this economic climate maybe people won't want to spend £300 on a console for shinier graphics and a limited games catologue (compared to PS3/360). What if people feel the PS3 is just fine for them at the moment and so don't upgrade to a next gen console for a while.

i think there will be still some years before the new generation will arrive...so i think it´s to enjoy at the moment this generation and the games what will still arrive for this generation.

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i believe that the next generation os gaming consoles will arrive in next 5 years, not in the case of Microsoft they might release a console sooner then that like the last time.

Well I hope Nothing new comes out till 2012, as it stands if I'm going to uni soon, I can't waste my money on one of my few hobbies for quite some time. I'm thinking 2014 would be an ideal end.

 

fine by me since i'll be so stupidly wealthy by 2012 anyway

well i for one wouldn't expect a next generation in 4-5 years and by that time ps3/xbox 360 shuld have the following as standard for all games :1080p native ,improvement in physics,animations,a.i.,no popins,60 fps,atleast 4 times the draw distance than gta 4

Syko 360


I think the biggest thing PS3 gamers fail to realize is that this generation started in 2005. The PS3 came out late and limped out of the gates, this seems to have caused a "This generation has just started" type thinking among many PS3 only owners.

While I do agree with Max Power that this generation will be longer than previous generations due to the Dev times, Economy and the high prices of these consoles. I still don't think it is as far off as some people think.

I say by 2012 there will be new consoles, which is still a 2 year longer run than the seemingly 5 year cycles we have been used to. I think again you will see MS have an advantage for a while on the next console as well due to them being a software company and having better dev tools and the new X-Engine I am sure is geared with the next console in mind. Therefore helping ease the burden on devs working with the next gen system.

With all that said though I think in the next few years is when we will see some tremendous games. Especially on the PS3 side. 360 will have a few surprise gems too but PS3 is at the point where the games are finally ready to shine and the devs have a good handle on the system.

No matter what a next gen console is a day 1 purchase for me...Whoever gets there first is what I will own. I love having a new console. It is magical...

You seem to fail to realize that the PS3 didn't limp out of the gate.  It has been proven and stated over and over again that it is the 3rd fastest selling console of all time.  The games at the start were lacking in "quantity" at launch, but the quality was there.. Resistance, for example... a new IP was all there was to play, and all I and many people wanted to play, what an amazing game.
 
Also, only the original Playstation had a "5 year lifespan" if you want to call it that as it sold well beyond that ... Sony's plans for PS2 and PS3 have been for 10 year life cycles so as much as people want to believe we will see a PS4 in 2011 or 2012, I say that is way too early.  
 
History shows systems usually try to at least double their processing power and etc... from one generation to the next.. case in point...  16 bit generation (Sega Genesis/SNES/Neo Geo) then 32/64 bit generation (Playstation, Saturn, Nintendo 64), then 128 bit gen ( Dreamcast / PS2 / XBOX)...  I just don't see PS3 being doubled in raw processing power by the PS4 ... I guess they could increase the RAM but really, how much more can we get out of consoles before they really are computers?
I bought Genesis, PS1, PS2, PS3 all day one of the release dates... but if a PS4 or even an attractive XBOX720 come out 2012 or sooner... it'll be the first time I pass on standing in line for a console in a very long time.
 
Very happy with the PS3 and the future proofing it has.

For one.. please stop saying "Yall"..


Second there will be a XBOX 3 waaaaayyy befor a PS4 since MS Rushed it so in theory they where early, The  PS3 was on track  though it was just over alil priced and New "have to learn somthing new" hardware..

No diffent then the PS2 took about the same time for it to gets its Groove on and had a long life and PS3 said to have a 10 i'd bet more like 7~


...But only thing i care about next XBOX is that they use 3 and not some spin deceive style number to make it look par with its competitor...

eg. Dumb soccer's MOMs dont care about whats what,they only see one thing.. 

Product A says 3,

 product B says 2..   well in product numerical values, 3 is newer and 2 is old...

 Thats why MS deceived the Moms and named it 360 so its not to look inferior by number next to the PS3.. 

New Xbox 3 in 2011/12, new PS4 maybe 2015~   
 

Syko 360


I think the biggest thing PS3 gamers fail to realize is that this generation started in 2005. The PS3 came out late and limped out of the gates, this seems to have caused a "This generation has just started" type thinking among many PS3 only owners.

but.. "Next Gen doesn't start until we say it does" 

step 1: learn proper english by not saying 'ya'll' and 'ya'lls'

step 2: a higher paying job will follow after you learn proper english

step 3: use that money to buy games

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Forget the PS4

i hate that, i player hate against the ps3 and ps4.

Buy a 360.