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Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 12:35:27

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So I have two friends who are planning on renting a flat (or "apartment") together. Drawing from personal experience can anyone offer advice or suggestions about potential traps or other things to bear in mind.

And if anyone here does rent in the UK, what is a good price point for a 2 bedroomed flat, bearing in mind they are both 19 and not earning huge amounts.

I'm deliberately leaving this quite vaguely described, as I want to know the most important things to inform them of.

Any advice is helpful, especially if it's from experience.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 12:44:56

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Here's a tip that I learned from personal experience. Never make payments for anything like furniture or appliances. If you can't afford to buy it outright, don't buy it. And remember to look around for good deals when getting items to put in your apartment. You'll find a lot of great deals from places like Craigslist (is that in the UK?) and your local classifieds.

And most importantly, make sure that you REALLY know who you are moving in with. Don't move in with someone just because they have a job. You'll find out the hard way sometimes that that is the only positive about that person.

Lastly, never split rent with a girl that you aren't going out with NO MATTER WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE. You cannot imagine the complicated and horrible possibilities that could occur in the house with that pairing. I had a friend living the Three's Company live for about a year before he lost it and moved out to live on his own. Seriously, I did not envy that guy.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 12:57:15

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Location is a given, the most important....ask about the neighbors and the neighborhood from the landlord, or from other people that know the area.

If the place already has electricity and running water, I suggest these:

Check all the light switches, see if they work...bring a light bulb if you must

flush the toilets...twice or three times.

run the taps to see if they work.

If possible, bring a night light to check out the electrical sockets.

If theres a rug check underneath it...if possible....don't want mold or fungus growing under there, breathing in the spores is bad

Also you never know what could be under there...Chalk outline of a dead body anyone? blood stains? big gaping hole etc...

As above, look for mold or fungus.

Then there is the standard stuff:

Check doors and windows see if they all have locks or not...and if they are sturdy...Double paned windows are a must.

Fire alarms and fire exits...I think they are required by law to provide you with fire extinguishers and firealarms now.

A closet for all your killing tools...for burglars lol

Check for wood rot or termites...especially on the doors...It will be easier to kick in if the door is rotted.

DO NOT SIGN A LEASE!!!

Most landlords are lazy bastards, or they got too many places to look after, or they don't wanna spend too much money on the apartments. So some tend to overlook, miss, cover up, or don't bother fixing things.

EDIT: I didn't check for any of these and got screwed a few times...

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 12:59:14

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I moved out at 20. All I can say is, make damn sure you trust the guys you are with and that everyone's name is on the lease. The last thing you want is one of your roomates losing a job, and then deciding to ditch you to go back and live with his parents. I don't know how it is for you guys, but in the US, if you are on the lease and you leave before the contract is up, you are still forced to pay the remaining year's pay.

Also, be aware that apartment floors are paper thin... so keep the noise level and steps to a minimum.

Other than that, as long as you trust the guys you are moving in with, and feel like you have a secure job (you should make atleast twice what your share of rent/utilities is) you should be fine.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 13:57:32

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umm I don't really think it would be a good idea to move out unless you have a secure job on you will decent pay. After all you don't wnna take any risks.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 16:33:10

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Lots of good ideas jollygoodchap. Thank you very much. I would never have thought of a few of those.

So basically they need job stability and trustworthyness.

That's up to them I guess, I can only be a bringer of ominous warnings. Although hopefully I'll be able to check out the place with them, which means I get to be the awkward friend who lifts up the rugs instead of them feeling embarassed about it.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-27th-2008 21:55:54

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some stuff off the top of my head.

1. If the landlord is pushing for them to sign a lease right when they see the place don't go for it.
2. Make sure the lease is NOT global rent, cause if one roommate doesn't pay the landlord has legal right to take it from the other.
3. Make sure everything works, and that all ulitilies or anything like that are clearly defined in the lease.
4. Make sure you can stand to LIVE with the person, just liking them isn't enough.
5. Like others have said because a cheap skate. I take toliet paper from my univeristy, take paper towels as well, we eat a lot of Little Ceasers pizza cause its 8 slices for 5 bucks.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 6:15:59

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i can give u some tips!

Firstly, if u wana move out, depends where u wants to stay, check the prices of rooms in different areas, my girl and i moved to U.K about a year ago and it was struggling, but now we doing really great, make sure the room is not damp, like carpet floors, enough ventilations. The most importany thing is if you are looking to rent a room with a friend or yourself, make SURE BILLS ARE ALL INCLUDED!! a single room should be around £50-70 and double £110-130, Check where the nearest bus stop to station or mall as u dont wants to walk far to get transport or to buy a snack.

And Yes 19 is great to moved out, it teach u a lesson in life.

All the things jollygoodchap8 say above, pay atention to it.

Good luck!!

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 6:55:38

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if you and your friends have full time jobs already and you know them really well, you can try it, but if you are already pretty comfy at home save yourself a bit of cash and just visit them

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 11:57:38

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i can give u some tips!

Firstly, if u wana move out, depends where u wants to stay, check the prices of rooms in different areas, my girl and i moved to U.K about a year ago and it was struggling, but now we doing really great, make sure the room is not damp, like carpet floors, enough ventilations. The most importany thing is if you are looking to rent a room with a friend or yourself, make SURE BILLS ARE ALL INCLUDED!! a single room should be around £50-70 and double £110-130, Check where the nearest bus stop to station or mall as u dont wants to walk far to get transport or to buy a snack.

And Yes 19 is great to moved out, it teach u a lesson in life.

All the things jollygoodchap8 say above, pay atention to it.

Good luck!!

Holy crap... 50-70?? That's like around $120 isn't it? Jesus... I need to move. Around D.C you're lucky to get a 1 bedroom under $600. Hell, on the two bed two bath i'm in right now the total rent is $1300, and that's only including trash pickup as a utility.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 12:00:29

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It's not for me personally, just some friends I care about. I want them to have a good chance at getting it right since neither wants to live at home any more.

I'm glad nobody has said it's a terrible idea, that should at least increase confidence levels, although stressing how important employment is may fall on deaf ears unfortunately. We'll see.

Edit: I think the figures he quoted was for the bills alone, not the whole thing. My friends currently have their eyes on places between £650 and £800 per month. I don't know if that includes electricity, water etc, but I doubt it.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 12:03:19

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I moved out at 20. All I can say is, make damn sure you trust the guys you are with and that everyone's name is on the lease. The last thing you want is one of your roomates losing a job, and then deciding to ditch you to go back and live with his parents. I don't know how it is for you guys, but in the US, if you are on the lease and you leave before the contract is up, you are still forced to pay the remaining year's pay.

Also, be aware that apartment floors are paper thin... so keep the noise level and steps to a minimum.

Other than that, as long as you trust the guys you are moving in with, and feel like you have a secure job (you should make atleast twice what your share of rent/utilities is) you should be fine.

QFT, I have many horror stories of my friends having hell with roommates/girlfriends/boyfriends not holding up their end, or being apartment nazis, writing on bananas and muffins as theirs, ordering tons of porno on pay per view and not admitting it, attempted suicides after 3 day drug binges etc. Nothing can ruin a friendship quicker than money or sex, and having them as a roommate will involve one or the other.

Personally I'm too much of a dick and a tad OCD about cleanliness to live with anyone I'm not laying pipe to, but the one roommate experience I had was ok, can't say I'd do it again for aforementioned pipe laying reason. I likes my privacy otherwise.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 12:06:34

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I think you could be better off moving in with some random than your good friends. There are thing you don't know about that could create friction and dropped friendships between the three of you. Consider it to the fullest extent.

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RE: Is moving out at 19 a good idea. - Apr.-28th-2008 12:11:05

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I moved out at 20. All I can say is, make damn sure you trust the guys you are with and that everyone's name is on the lease. The last thing you want is one of your roomates losing a job, and then deciding to ditch you to go back and live with his parents. I don't know how it is for you guys, but in the US, if you are on the lease and you leave before the contract is up, you are still forced to pay the remaining year's pay.

Also, be aware that apartment floors are paper thin... so keep the noise level and steps to a minimum.

Other than that, as long as you trust the guys you are moving in with, and feel like you have a secure job (you should make atleast twice what your share of rent/utilities is) you should be fine.

QFT, I have many horror stories of my friends having hell with roommates/girlfriends/boyfriends not holding up their end, or being apartment nazis, writing on bananas and muffins as theirs, ordering tons of porno on pay per view and not admitting it, attempted suicides after 3 day drug binges etc. Nothing can ruin a friendship quicker than money or sex, and having them as a roommate will involve one or the other.

Personally I'm too much of a dick and a tad OCD about cleanliness to live with anyone I'm not laying pipe to, but the one roommate experience I had was ok, can't say I'd do it again for aforementioned pipe laying reason. I likes my privacy otherwise.

Oh, that brings me to my next piece of advice that I forgot to mention. Don't move in with your best friends. Your friend might seem like the coolest guy ever, but after a few weeks of living together, 24/7 you will be at each others throats. By the end of the year, you guys might not even want to see each other again. If you think you guys can handle it, go ahead... but I suggest moving in with people you are slightly friends with, or just acuatences with. I live with my brother, so it has always been a love-hate relationship since I was born, but a couple years ago I lived with my best friend... and at times I just wanted to never speak to him again.

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