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Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Homose... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:39:41   
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By NWV News Director, Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
July 14, 2008
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In a legal action guaranteed to shock most Americans, a gay man is suing a major publisher of Bibles claiming certain verses caused him "emotional distress." He's suing for $70 million.

Bradley LaShawn Fowler, a 39-year old self-avowed homosexual from Canton , Michigan , seeks $60 million from Zondervan, a major publisher of religious books, and an additional $10 million from Thomas Nelson Publishing in his lawsuits filed in the federal court for the Eastern District of Michigan.

While observers believe Fowler is being backed by an anti-Christian or pro-gay group, according to The Grand Rapids Press(in Michigan ), the plaintiff Fowler is representing himself in the legal proceedings.

"I believe this self-representation business is a sham. I suspect some big-money organization or a wealthy benefactor is providing the finances for this obscene abuse of the legal system and the US Constitution's 'separation of church and state' tradition. Are Christians really going to allow some gay activist and a black-robed lawyer to decide how the Bible is written?" asks political strategist Mike Baker.

Fowler claims that King James Bibles published by Zondervan disparages homosexuals as sinners. He said he filed his lawsuits against Bible publishers because they are instrumental in having his family turn against him. Fowler is also claiming the Bible verses cause him physical discomfort and that he suffers mental distress as a result of those scriptures.

"The intent of the publisher was to design a religious, sacred document to reflect an individual opinion or a group's conclusion to cause me or anyone who is a homosexual to endure verbal abuse, discrimination, episodes of hate, and physical violence ... including murder," Fowler wrote in his self-styled legal brief.

"This whole lawsuit is making a mockery of the Holy Bible and a blatant attempt by the homosexual community to take away the rights of Bible-believing Christians in the United States . Past cases against Christians and their beliefs has shown that court actions infringing on their beliefs and practices is even easier than taking away candy from a baby," Baker warns.

"The Muslim religion also condemns homosexuality. If Mr. Fowler was to sue the publishers of the Koran, would the Muslims sit silently by? Salman Rushdie wrote a book titled The Satanic Versesthat offended the muslims back in 1988, and he's still in hiding today. In a Christian Nation, they tolerate Gay Pride Parades. Make a mockery of the Christian Bible, and all you can expect from the religious leadership is 'we'll pray on it', said Baker."

"A good example of Christians tolerating blasphemy is an artwork made famous back in 1987 by Andres Serrano, titled; " **** Christ," and voting for spineless weenies and the lesser of two evils is why America is at the doorstep of destruction," added Lorraine Tillman.

"My fear is that Christians -- bishops, pastors, and church-goers -- will silently accept the decision of a black-robed lawyer who may or may not have his own religious agenda. Too often religious leaders have failed to motivate their churches to take action when their rights are being violated by oppressive anti-religious forces inside and outside our government," said Baker. By the way added Baker, "one of the books published by Thomas Nelson Publishing is Judge Andrew Napolitano's ' A Nation of Sheep.'"

In a recently released statement, a Zondervan spokesperson wrote: "Zondervan doesn't translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations. Instead [our] company relies on the scholarly judgment of credible translation committees."

Meanwhile, U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook, Jr., who will hear Fowler’s case against Thomas Nelson, said that he “has some very genuine concerns about the nature and efficacy of [the plaintiff's] claims." Christian observers such as Jane Martin believe such statements only encourage these types of lawsuits.

"This case just may go a lot further than it deserves, thanks to a liberal judge who believes his word is sacrosanct," she said.

While the denizens of America 's newsrooms appear to be ignoring this latest religious controversy, the gay press is keeping their eyes on the caseand spinning the story to benefit their worldview.

While Fowler claims he alone is involved in the Zondervan and Thomas Nelson Publishing lawsuits, some conservatives believe he is being secretly backed by a group or individual with "deep pockets" and an interest in attacking Christianity.

"This guy Fowler isn't telling us the full story. I'd bet the farm someone with millions of dollars to spare is backing him financially in a move to actually alter what Christians believe is 'the word of God,'" claims Mike Baker.

Zondervan is a subsidiary of the publishing giant HarperCollinsand specializes in evangelical books and audiotapes. Its books and products are sold in over 60 countries and it's a member of The Evangelical Christian Publishers Association.

"We're an international Christian communications company with a heart for helping people find and follow Jesus Christ by inspiring them with relevant biblical and spiritual resources. We do this through our best-selling, award-winning, and life-changing products," according to their mission statement.

The other target of Fowler's lawsuit is Thomas Nelson, Inc., located in Nashville, TN. Nelson is one of the oldest publishing houses in the US , being established in 1798. As with Zondervan, the company specializes in Bibles, Christian non-fiction and fiction books, audiotapes and other religious products.

The judge hearing the Fowler lawsuit, Julian Abele Cook, was appointed to the federal bench during the Carter Administration in 1978. According to a source in Washington , DC , Cook is "to the left" on most issues including so-called discrimination cases. In fact, besides being a federal judge, Cook has served as a chairman or vice-chairman of several civil liberties organizations and panels and he has close ties to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

"If people believe this lawsuit will disappear, they are sadly mistaken. Judge Cook is considered an activist judge who has a personal agenda when it comes to so-called discrimination cases. And the homosexual plaintiff against Zondervan and Thomas Nelson is claiming the Bible discriminates against gays and lesbians. This case is not going away any time soon," warns Baker.
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RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:41:41   
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wow, what a tool

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:42:29   
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    This case better be thrown out.  What an a-hole

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:43:11   
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    Can someone summarize all that..

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:43:22   
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    He's basically suing God rotfl

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:45:32   
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    He's basically suing God rotfl


    wtf.............

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:47:31   
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    So can he sue every writer that has created a book in which a homosexual was beaten or killed? What about that movie "As Good as it Gets". Can he sue the makers of that film? At some point they need to filter these frivolous lawsuits.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:50:55   
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    Hah, you silly Americans and all your lawsuits. You should settle your differences in drunken pub brawls, like we do.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:51:47   
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    Hah, you silly Americans and all your lawsuits.


    True enough and we can all thank an old lady and hot coffee for this kind of junk

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:52:37   
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    quote:

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    Hah, you silly Americans and all your lawsuits. You should settle your differences in drunken pub brawls, like we do.


    I'm going to sue this guy for filing such a stupid lawsuit...

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:56:10   
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    quote:

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    Hah, you silly Americans and all your lawsuits. You should settle your differences in drunken pub brawls, like we do.


    For real, but if we did that and hit a homosexual then we would go to jail for sexual discrimination...and then sued by the same guy.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 15:59:35   
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    What a genius!

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 16:04:59   
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    What a genius!


    You should join in the lawsuit.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 16:14:40   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: PS360WII

    quote:

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    Hah, you silly Americans and all your lawsuits.


    True enough and we can all thank an old lady and hot coffee for this kind of junk


    She was smart about it, took advantage of the obvious.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 16:18:44   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Hellbringer

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    True enough and we can all thank an old lady and hot coffee for this kind of junk


    She was smart about it, took advantage of the obvious.


    Yes, but I'm sure many other people thought about it, or perhaps joked about it, but none really thought about getting a load of money that they don't deserve from it, until she did. She set the trend, if you will. An annoying trend, that reflects badly against all Americans now.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-13th-2008 16:24:39   
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    Hah, you silly Americans and all your lawsuits. You should settle your differences in drunken pub brawls, like we do.


    I'm going to sue this guy for filing such a stupid lawsuit...


    You'd stand more chance of winning.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-14th-2008 4:14:56   
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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-14th-2008 8:13:22   
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    No one needs to protect "love-speech." Everyone like hearing that they are great people.

    These are the same type of people that says Christianity is as dangerous as Islam then points back to Christian history when there was no Bibles in anyones hands(Crusades). and...
    These are the same type of people that think
    1.country music is full of racist;
    2.the south if full or intorlance;
    3.the Jews brought us into the War in Iraq;
    4.Indian Jones and the Crystal Skull was a good;
    5.Georgia had it coming;
    6. American/English/western culture is evil;
    7. the original RE5 trailer was racist;
    8. Jon Smackenrow should be censored for writing "Black Pride is black touchiness."
    9. Peace can be achieved on earth
    10. We can't drill for oil in our own land but think it is a conspiracy when other can't meet our demands for us.
    11. Punish achievers(Exxon, bright asian children) reward loser(Fanny May, immigrant's children that can't even speak the language).
    12. But most of all they hate Elohim, because they are relativist, and HE is righteously black and white.

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-14th-2008 8:57:10   
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    Maybe, this dude should take this up with umm ummm...I dont know....GOD!!!!!     

    You what the most funny apart of this whole thing is?  God loves everybody, even gays... :)

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    RE: Man Sues Bible Publishers After Verses Condemned Ho... - Aug.-14th-2008 9:06:35   
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    Maybe, this dude should take this up with umm ummm...I dont know....GOD!!!!!     

    You what the most funny apart of this whole thing is?  God loves everybody, even gays... :)


    I dont know what god you are talking about but I assume its the christian god.  If that is indeed correct then no he does not

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