...However for most stories you don’t need to use quotes but you can instead copy a few paragraphs of the text and edit out any “We” , “I” or “us”. These can then be often be replaced by the websites name.

Length of News Posts Do not copy two or three pages of text from the source story. A N4G news post should include just the main points of a news story (often found in the first part of the source article), so readers who are interested in more details can click through. In most cases 1 -3 paragraphs is enough...

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ORIGINAL: Dukester101

N4G does not and never will endorse plagiarism. In fact, it is condoned by N4G period.

If a user attempts to use plagiarism and take credit for someone else's work, that user will be restricted from site features for an indefinite period.

I suggest you take time to read the rules and guidelines more clearly before you make assumptions that N4G endorses plagiarism.

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ORIGINAL: harry190
That''s why you report so much?Unnecessary reports?
Plagiarism?What are you talking about.Maybe you did not understand the concept.
This is a site where you get links to other sites,not a site where you compile all the info and make it your own.I saw some pof your posts,and frankly,they are not any different from what you are advocating against.

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ORIGINAL: harry190
Don't play this card with me.Look at this,then you can go complain elsewhere.
http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-103165.aspx

1. to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own
2. to use (another's production) without crediting the source
3. to commit literary theft
4. to present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source.

• turning in someone else's work as your own
• copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
• failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
• giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
• changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
• copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)

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ORIGINAL: pjeigh

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ORIGINAL: harry190
Don't play this card with me.Look at this,then you can go complain elsewhere.
http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-103165.aspx

I played it and you still have not picked it up. I suspect you will not, which is fine. As Mark Twain said/wrote, "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

The mistake I made with that particular N4G contribution, and I aknowledge it in the comments section, was changing the headline. I had seen it done with other submissions so I thought it was OK. I was mistaken. By the time I went back to the original headline, the submission was already approved and, therefore, uneditable. It was one of my earliest contributions to N4G. I made that mistake and have not made it since then. I've even made other mistakes and continue to try and avoid them. As for the rest of that contribution, it is a summary of the original article.

I've even been guilty of copying sections of an original article and, comforming to guidelines, edited it into a summary. I probably did that once or twice early on, but I no longer do that since it can be considered plagiarism.

I have simply noticed a clarification in the N4G Guidelines that should be changed.

I'm hoping a moderator or two has read this, so please forward my suggestion to the appropriate person/people.

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ORIGINAL: harry190
Mark Twain was a cultured individual,who probably thought twice about something.I can see you cite the source.Nice,now how about following this principle?

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ORIGINAL: zonetrooper5
Please read that rule again, it makes sense.

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ORIGINAL: pjeigh

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ORIGINAL: zonetrooper5
Please read that rule again, it makes sense.

Please explain how, "However for most stories you don’t need to use quotes but you can instead copy a few paragraphs of the text and edit out any “We” , “I” or “us”. These can then be often be replaced by the websites name." is not plagiarism?

- You copy a paragraph (sentence, whatever) from the original source.
- You change the prounouns into nouns/site names.
- You are told not to put quotes around it.
- You submit it to N4G (as your own).

Elsewhere in the Guidelines it instructs writers to write a summary and cite the source. Excellent. The issue I have is with the (grammatically awkward) sentence:

"However for most stories you don’t need to use quotes but you can instead copy a few paragraphs of the text and edit out any “We” , “I” or “us”. These can then be often be replaced by the websites name."

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ORIGINAL: zonetrooper5
For example, say you were submiting an article from IGN about GTA IV or whatever. The writer of that article would be using the words "I played GTA IV and I'm delighted to say its rules, the fighting system has been overhauled."

You take out the I because its not your article and you didn't play the game and then replace it with IGN played GTA IV and they are delighted to say it rules, the fighting system has be overhauled."

There you go, now read that rule again and look at my example. All your doing it chaning certain words so it makes sense.

IGN played GTA IV and they are delighted to say, "it rules, the fighting system has been overhauled."

In IGN's review of Grand Theft Auto IV (GTA IV), the writer declares, "it rules," attributing some of the game's success to an improved fighting system.