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N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 1:33:37

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As a sister post to what has become one of the largest posts ever (outside the random thread) I just wanted to point out one quick fact:

A story only fails for one of two reason, either:

1) Nobody cares. The article is so boring that not even 10 (or less) people will give a few seconds of their lives to approve it. Find a better story, or pay someone to fake interest in your subject, console, game, whatever.

2) An admin fails the story. An admin once failed a story I submitted, I contacted the admin and expressed my view on the matter, the admin then fixed the issue. If your story was wrongfully failed by an admin, take it up with the site admins. If your unhappy, you should be unhappy with the admins.

Now; a story DOES NOT FAIL BECAUSE FANBOYS REPORT IT! People always complain "boo hoo, I got to many reports and it failed." That may be, but the reports arn't the reason it failed. A story can have 2,000 reports, and yet manage to sqeeze in 10 little approvals and end up on the main site. In such a scenerio the 10 are likely to complain that they have been treated unfairly, even though they received what they wanted despite the majority.

In an hypothetical world one million PS3 fans tried to supress the 360 news into extinction, but failed because despite several million reports, the 360 news articles passed, because 10 brave loyalist gave their approval.

Again, if you have a problem, it's probably with an admin, and should be taken up in private with them.

Thanks.

Edit: It appears I was wrong, and that repots can stop a story from being approved. Thus, I must hang my head in shame and admit the whole basis of this thread has been invalidated. Carry on.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 1:38:01

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Proxy

As a sister post to what has become one of the largest posts ever (outside the random thread) I just wanted to point out one quick fact:

A story only fails for one of two reason, either:

1) Nobody cares. The article is so boring that not even 10 (or less) people will give a few seconds of their lives to approve it. Find a better story, or pay someone to fake interest in your subject, console, game, whatever.

2) An admin fails the story. An admin once failed a story I submitted, I contacted the admin and expressed my view on the matter, the admin then fixed the issue. If your story was wrongfully failed by an admin, take it up with the site admins. If your unhappy, you should be unhappy with the admins.

Now; a story DOES NOT FAIL BECAUSE FANBOYS REPORT IT! People always complain "boo hoo, I got to many reports and it failed." That may be, but the reports arn't the reason it failed. A story can have 2,000 reports, and yet manage to sqeeze in 10 little approvals and end up on the main site. In such a scenerio the 10 are likely to complain that they have been treated unfairly, even though they received what they wanted despite the majority.

In an hypothetical world one million PS3 fans tried to supress the 360 news into extinction, but failed because despite several million reports, the 360 news articles passed, because 10 brave loyalist gave their approval.

Again, if you have a problem, it's probably with an admin, and should be taken up in private with them.

Thanks.

(The above is based on my understanding of the approval system. If I am wrong, this thread should should be renamed "Proxy, N4G's laughing stock!" by an admin.)

It just doesn't make sense to me how fanboys can control the fate of news articles. Mods fail stories bottom line

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 1:47:51

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I'm not really sure how the process works, but I really don't care as I rarely approve or report a story.

Now... after that Bloodmask circus of a thread I care even less.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 1:56:58

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Your theory about news not being able to fail by reports alone is incorrect.
But yeah anytime you feel like a news post was failed unfairly please contact a admin.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:00:04

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I just want to understand what the system is. From what i am hearing, its 5 spam reports or 5 duplicates

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:04:36

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ORIGINAL: RuJoshin

Your theory about news not being able to fail by reports alone is incorrect.
But yeah anytime you feel like a news post was failed unfairly please contact a admin.

So how does it work then?

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:06:52

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I just want to understand what the system is. From what i am hearing, its 5 spam reports or 5 duplicates

That is true while it's in pending it seems because I and others reported a story that had been approved and it got 7 or 8 duplicate reports but didn't fail.

And good job, Bloodmask. You brought the war to the forums.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:11:28

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And good job, Bloodmask. You brought the war to the forums.

That's true. By virtue of simply discussing fanboyism in the forums, we've brought a classic fanboy war into the one part of the site that was mostly free of such nonsense. Spooky...

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:14:27

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That is true while it's in pending it seems because I and others reported a story that had been approved and it got 7 or 8 duplicate reports but didn't fail.

And good job, Bloodmask. You brought the war to the forums.

I didn't bring any war to the forums. If the mods saw my thread unfit they could have locked it yet they didn't. I was only pointing out a problem on N4G, that is all. Is the solution to ignore it?

And this thread really is redundant bc it is false. 5 reports in pending of duplicate, old, or SPAM will fail a story. A story can also fail even after it is approved if it is weighted down by multiple reports as mine was. It had over 40 reports on it.

I don't think the solution to a problem is to act as if it doesn't exist.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:16:41

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Yeah I tried to be pretty neutral in my posts as far as fanboyism goes for that thread. Mostly however it was just:

Bloodmask + Me vs. Every Sony Fanboy

Funny how that turns it into a whole fanboy war seeing as I have no preference and bloodmask owns a 360 and PS3.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:18:27

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Yeah I tried to be pretty neutral in my posts as far as fanboyism goes for that thread. Mostly however it was just:

Bloodmask + Me vs. Every Sony Fanboy

Funny how that turns it into a whole fanboy war seeing as I have no preference and bloodmask owns a 360 and PS3.

You are very wise Bama. Together we shall rule the galaxy.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:20:02

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Yeah I tried to be pretty neutral in my posts as far as fanboyism goes for that thread. Mostly however it was just:

Bloodmask + Me vs. Every Sony Fanboy

Funny how that turns it into a whole fanboy war seeing as I have no preference and bloodmask owns a 360 and PS3.

So I guess it was two 360 fanboys vs Every Sony fanboy...

Yep... That seems about right.

:)

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:21:51

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ORIGINAL: bama

Yeah I tried to be pretty neutral in my posts as far as fanboyism goes for that thread. Mostly however it was just:

Bloodmask + Me vs. Every Sony Fanboy

Funny how that turns it into a whole fanboy war seeing as I have no preference and bloodmask owns a 360 and PS3.

So I guess it was two 360 fanboys vs Every Sony fanboy...

Yep... That seems about right.

:)

When have I ever shown preference to the 360? That only proves that you label anyone who doesn't completely agree with you as a fanboy.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:22:52

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I didn't bring any war to the forums. If the mods saw my thread unfit they could have locked it yet they didn't. I was only pointing out a problem on N4G, that is all. Is the solution to ignore it?

And this thread really is redundant bc it is false. 5 reports in pending of duplicate, old, or SPAM will fail a story. A story can also fail even after it is approved if it is weighted down by multiple reports as mine was. It had over 40 reports on it.

I don't think the solution to a problem is to act as if it doesn't exist.

Need I point it out again? We've seen those threads before. We know about the "issue".

Here's the story I and others reported as duplicate. http://www.n4g.com/dev/NewsPending-134125.aspx

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:25:10

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Need I point it out again? We've seen those threads before. We know about the "issue".

Here's the story I and others reported as duplicate. http://www.n4g.com/dev/NewsPending-134125.aspx

Yeah, and those people should have their approval privelages taken away.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:25:13

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I didn't bring any war to the forums. If the mods saw my thread unfit they could have locked it yet they didn't. I was only pointing out a problem on N4G, that is all. Is the solution to ignore it?

And this thread really is redundant bc it is false. 5 reports in pending of duplicate, old, or SPAM will fail a story. A story can also fail even after it is approved if it is weighted down by multiple reports as mine was. It had over 40 reports on it.

I don't think the solution to a problem is to act as if it doesn't exist.

Need I point it out again? We've seen those threads before. We know about the "issue".

Here's the story I and others reported as duplicate. http://www.n4g.com/dev/NewsPending-134125.aspx

If the issue isn't fixed it still needs to be addressed. Shoving a problem under the table still leaves a problem.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:25:33

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ORIGINAL: bama

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ORIGINAL: Whoooop

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ORIGINAL: bama

Yeah I tried to be pretty neutral in my posts as far as fanboyism goes for that thread. Mostly however it was just:

Bloodmask + Me vs. Every Sony Fanboy

Funny how that turns it into a whole fanboy war seeing as I have no preference and bloodmask owns a 360 and PS3.

So I guess it was two 360 fanboys vs Every Sony fanboy...

Yep... That seems about right.

:)

When have I ever shown preference to the 360? That only proves that you label anyone who doesn't completely agree with you as a fanboy.

Does preference makes a fanboy???

lol, so only Bloodmask is the 360 fanboy?? ... sorry

Correction.... One 360 fanboy + fictional unbiased gamer vs Every Sony Fanboy...

Now it seems about right...

:)

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:26:31

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Quit giving bloodmask a blow job. Yes there is a problem but the problem is not PS3 fanboys. The problem is the system for failing stories. If you leave it user controlled, there is no way shit like this won't happen. So focus the attention on the root of the problem in order to solve it.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:26:40

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ORIGINAL: Whoooop

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ORIGINAL: bama

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ORIGINAL: Whoooop

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ORIGINAL: bama

Yeah I tried to be pretty neutral in my posts as far as fanboyism goes for that thread. Mostly however it was just:

Bloodmask + Me vs. Every Sony Fanboy

Funny how that turns it into a whole fanboy war seeing as I have no preference and bloodmask owns a 360 and PS3.

So I guess it was two 360 fanboys vs Every Sony fanboy...

Yep... That seems about right.

:)

When have I ever shown preference to the 360? That only proves that you label anyone who doesn't completely agree with you as a fanboy.

Does preference makes a fanboy???

lol, so only Bloodmask is the 360 fanboy?? ... sorry

Correction.... One 360 fanboy + fictional unbiased gamer vs Every Sony Fanboy...

Now it seems about right...

:)

Just because you can't comprehend something doesn't mean it is fictional.

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RE: N4G Cannot Be Supressed By Fanboys. - Jun.-27th-2008 2:29:16

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If the issue isn't fixed it still needs to be addressed. Shoving a problem under the table still leaves a problem.

Ok, have the admins ban all the PS3 fanboys. And stop starting quote chains. It's annoying.

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