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Need Help With Rebuild For My PC - Apr.-11th-2008 19:09:20

Spazz

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I've already started buying things to upgrade my current PC. I'm now looking to buy a few more things for it and have listed them below. I have a few questions involving some of the items and also some I can't seem to find.

First off let me start with a cooling system. I need something that will keep this puppy from catching my house on fire. Does anyone know where I can find a good cooling system for this PC or is this something I'm going to need custom made for it?

This seems a little expensive for a processor. Should I go with a 3.0 quad core to save a few bucks?
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Yorkfield 3.2GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 136W Quad-Core Processor - OEM
$1,430.00

ASUS P5E3 PREMIUM/WIFI-AP @n LGA 775 DDR3 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard
$369.99

Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
$349.99

Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
$349.99

I'm on the fence with these. Should I splurge on them or should I go with the 8800GTX series? From what I'm reading I'm not going to notice much of a difference. Can I even do this considering that this would be equivalent to 6 video cards? Whould the Motherboard I picked out even fit 3 of these?
PNY XLR8 VCG98GX2XPB GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$559.99

PNY XLR8 VCG98GX2XPB GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$559.99

PNY XLR8 VCG98GX2XPB GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$559.99

Is this going to be enough watts? Or do I need to go bigger?
Tuniq Ensemble ATX12V / EPS12V 1200W Power Supply 100 - 240 V CB, CE, FCC, TUV, cUL
$289.99

Should I just Raid 4, 150's or will this be ok?
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive
$169.99

Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive
$169.99

Western Digital Caviar GP WD10000CSRTL 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$239.99

I already bought a Razer headset, keyboard, mouse and speedpad so I figured I should follow suit with the sound card.
Razer Barracuda AC-1 7.1Gaming Soundcard - Full Retail Multi Language
$149.99

Also, if anyone can find me better prices on any of this can you please hit me up with a PM? All prices here are from newegg.com.

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RE: Need Help With Rebuild For My PC - Apr.-12th-2008 7:21:50

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How big is your budget ?

I would also reccomend the Q6600 quad core processor from Intel which you can overclock from the normal 2.4GHz to 3.00GHz.

Q6600 2.4GHz
2x2GB ram
Geforce 8800GTS 512mb
Gigabyte motherboard P35 I think are the best atm for a good price
hard drive - 500GB - 750GB would do, get two hard drives and boot the OS of your choice off one and store stuff on the other.
Case - you can choose
Cooling- Not sure

Heres what I have chosen for you from newegg and it won't cost you an arm and a leg.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

BFG Tech BFGE88512GTSE GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143119

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002

Thats most of the parts done but not the hard drive, case etc as I have to get ready for work soon.

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RE: Need Help With Rebuild For My PC - Apr.-12th-2008 11:49:13

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When I was looking at the 3.2 quad it was because I want to overclock it to as close to 4.0 as I can get. I own a 2.4 duo right now so going to 2.4 quad wouldn't seem that much of an upgrade to me. I don't want to go with no less than 3.0 before overclocking.

I have about $4000 to $5000 that I can spend on this. The parts I picked out come out to $5200 without the cooling system.

I didn't list everything because I already have everything else I need for the system like the case, cd drives, OS. I'm basically stripping the computer I build a year ago and redoing it. I could even skip out on the sound card because I have a nice soundblaster one. I might even be able to cut the cost a little on Harddrives. I have a 7200RPM 250 gig one and a 750 external. I also already own 1, 8800GTS. But I'll probably give this one away.

I just really don't want to skimp out on the Processor/Motherboard/RAM/and Video Cards.

I really need to know if it's even possible to run 3 8900GT2's. Each one of them is basically 2, 8800GTS's so if I did 3 8900's that would be like running 6 video cards. If I can't do this then I'm definitely going with 3 8800GTX's. They have gone down in price and can get these for a decent price.

This brings me to the issue of Powersupply. How big am I going to need running 3 gig quad core, 3 video cards and the fact that every external thing I have like the Keyboard, Mouse, Speedpad, Even the Mousepad draws extra power for all the blue lighting.

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RE: Need Help With Rebuild For My PC - Apr.-12th-2008 12:38:24

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Chances are you'll probably want to look at water cooling especially since it seems you have a little money to put into this, water cooling is the best option

For better prices I just check out Newegg, Tigerdirect, Zipzoomfly, and Mwave. For fancy lights and such I go to XPCgear, xoxide, and FrozenCPU

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RE: Need Help With Rebuild For My PC - Apr.-12th-2008 12:49:59

Spazz

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I definitely figured I would need water cooling but how does it work? Does it attach something to each of my video cards along with the processor? Also do I need a specific one for the processor I have picked out? Am I going to need this custom made for the equipment and stats I'll be running or is there one out there that will suit my needs? If there is a premade one (prefer something that glows blue) (it's the whole black and blue scheme I have going) I need some help finding it. I really have been looking but being new to liquid cooling systems I have no idea what exactly I'm looking for. I don't want to order the wrong one.

Well I just found out I can't use that motherboard with Nvidia Graphics Cards =( Back to the drawing board.

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RE: Need Help With Rebuild For My PC - Apr.-18th-2008 19:14:32

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Having 2 x 150GB WD Raptor should be good enough for your main system as it's only important if you're planning on installing your OS or Games onto since the seek time is lower.

However, having the 1TB HD is better in my opinion then 4 x 150GB Raptor HD since it's better to have more space and higher cache. I recommend you to look into the 32mb cache though if you're planning to go all out with the 1TB drive.

Make sure you're aware that the Window's 32-Bit OS's will not be able to recognize more than ~3GB of memory, so you should be looking to a 64-Bit OS if you're upgrading to 4GB+. I don't think you'll see much of a difference in speed with the DDR3 memory modules so I would recommend getting the 2GB DDR2 modules for a better price and more memory available also. You'll probably look to having more than just 4GB's if you're going for a high end gaming system.

The water cooling is definetely needed. It's normally attached to the CPU with water tubes that lead to a fan cooling system.

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