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Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 21:03:03   
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between the 360 and the ps3  http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=3&cId=3167500

Q:Let's talk about the hardware issues. Back when GTA4 was delayed, PS3 technical hurdles were cited as a contributing factor. I take it those have been ironed out.

I don't know what anybody's said on that stuff. I didn't say anything, and I stay out of it.... Both machines are absolutely fantastic, but they both come with strengths and weaknesses. The strength of the 360 is a very, very accessible, familiar, effective environment to work in. You're making the game from the get-go, everyone understands its PC environment -- boom, off we go. It's pretty good. One of the problems with the 360, and it affects games like Grand Theft Auto if you think about how much content we put in the actual machine, is the fact that they don't have a significantly larger storage medium than the previous systems. It's a slightly bigger DVD disc


Q:Plus, you're not guaranteed a hard drive in every system.

That's a complicated one. I met with a bunch of the senior fellows from [Microsoft]. I said, that's kind of complicated.... The upshot of the technical challenges we've experienced on either the 360 or on the PS3 is [that] both companies stepped up to the plate and have supported us in a way that was beyond even my greedy expectations. They've been amazing. I think that the 360 is going to have to get 'round this issue we're talking about. I can think of various ways they can do it. Hopefully, they're going to adopt one of those in the next year or so, because it's going to become more of an issue. If we're filling up the disc right now, where are we going? It's not like our games are going to get any smaller. I think that issue's on the table with a bunch of games right now. I'm sure they'll come through with an intelligent solution.

Getting things running on the PS3 initially was challenging. I think it was challenging for a lot of companies, but it's also a machine where, now that we've got comfortable with it -- I don't want to say we've cracked it, but we've got comfortable with it -- we know we can make our games. We're at a point now where the games pretty much look identical side by side. There's a slight difference in the way they look. I think that's to do with really low-level technical stuff that I'm not the guy to explain. The 360 games have a certain look to them; PS3 games have a certain look to them. I like the way [the PS3] renders. There's a certain kind of softness without being blurry -- some warmth to it -- and then there's a certain more clinical element to how the 360 looks. Both have plusses and minuses. As far as I'm concerned, they're neck and neck now. That's very much our goal; we do not want to get in the middle of that rather heated, fervent debate.... These guys who wanna defend their systems, you know what? Good on 'em, and let them do it. We just didn't want to give them something that would in any way fuel it....

there u have it

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 21:13:05   
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Add another reason to the list of why I want a new xbox by 2009

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 21:15:27   
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so basically the next GTA game will prob be Ps3 exclusive if microsoft doesnt fix these problems

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 21:53:58   
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There is already a intelligent solution. The DLCs.
Game makers earn extra cash with them and many consumers are willing to buy them. It's win-win.

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 22:05:30   
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DLC is an option but lack of blu ray will always be a constricting factor. You can use DLC to add new areas but there is still a limit to the file size. If it is getting really hard to fit things on the disc, i have to say they probably need more than that Xbox 360 file size

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 22:10:45   
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so charge people for stuff that should been off been on the disc..

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-22th-2008 23:59:33   
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I see no alternative.

I just don't understand how people can argue that DVD is still viable.

God of War 2, San Andreas, Metal Gear Subsistance, Substance, those are just 4 titles off the top of my head that filled up a dual layered DVD.

It's IMPOSSIBLE that bigger games stay smaller than that.

And MS system by 2009?.....Um......No. I just got started with my PS3. I used my PS2 for a good 5 solid years and all the craziest stuff came out at the end of the life cycle, I can't wait to see my PS3 on it's fifth year. There's no way I'm buying another console before that.

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 0:28:56   
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A new system in 2009 would be suicide for MS. People just make that dumb correlation because of the first Xbox's life cycle.

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 1:46:46   
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A new system in 2009 would be suicide for MS. People just make that dumb correlation because of the first Xbox's life cycle.


I could care less about MS, I would love a new console by '09 :D (yn)

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 2:07:35   
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Are you being serious?

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 5:05:35   
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I new console in 2009 would suck.

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 5:32:55   
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Free blu-ray drives for the 360! xD (and less noise)
I'm not smart on this subject, but didn't Lost Odessy get released on 4 DVDs? Why is that a problem for other games?

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 5:49:04   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: marichuu

Free blu-ray drives for the 360! xD (and less noise)
I'm not smart on this subject, but didn't Lost Odessy get released on 4 DVDs? Why is that a problem for other games?





 I have no idea how R* could make GTA with multiple discs. It's like you enter a new city: "Please enter disc #5"

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 6:32:21   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr_Kuwabara

quote:

ORIGINAL: marichuu

Free blu-ray drives for the 360! xD (and less noise)
I'm not smart on this subject, but didn't Lost Odessy get released on 4 DVDs? Why is that a problem for other games?





 I have no idea how R* could make GTA with multiple discs. It's like you enter a new city: "Please enter disc #5"


Sandbox games aren't the only ones out there :p A game like Gears of War 2 could easily be a 2 disc game. Halo 3 could've been way longer than 5-6 hours if they made the multiplayer part on a seperate disc :p

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 16:35:29   
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Are you suggesting the 360 disc space is responsible for the short sp mode for most multiplayer games?

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 17:08:23   
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Why should gamers be concerned with this disk space issue?  It's nothing more than an inconvenience for developers.  There's compression, multiple disks, downloadable content, and I think it's time to lose the CG movies.  GTA could be on 2 disks if it ever came to that.  You could cross a bridge from one city, change a disk, and enter the other city.  If this is such a HUGE issue with you, getting off the couch for like 2 seconds, then by yourself a PS3 and troll some forums.

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 17:55:32   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mwaan

Why should gamers be concerned with this disk space issue?  It's nothing more than an inconvenience for developers.  There's compression, multiple disks, downloadable content, and I think it's time to lose the CG movies. 


i hope ur being sarcastic cause this is a stupid comment

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-23th-2008 18:00:01   
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I'd hate the idea of multiple discs unless it was a "fair break" like MP on one disc, SP on one, because I don't see myself swapping for online in between missions, I'd be set for the SP for a while, then a session of MP at a later time.

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RE: Sam Houser's Opinion On The Hardware Issues - Apr.-24th-2008 5:25:34   
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Are you suggesting the 360 disc space is responsible for the short sp mode for most multiplayer games?


Wishful thinking I guess :p
I'd really like a reason to why games nowdays are no longer than 7ish hours. Size on the disc might be one of the reasons, other being too many illegal downloads of the games (no profit for developers).

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