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Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 10:13:04   
jazzking2001

 

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Well i was wondering why people hate anything from certain sites.
I know a few of the top of my head with no specific order

1 - Mine of course - Neocrisis - http://neocrisis.com/

I think people hate my site because my site is just a small, mostly 1 man show which embeds videos from youtube, gametrailers, google video and other video hosting sites.

2 - XBOXKINGS - http://xboxkings.com/

I really got no reason why people hate this site. Maybe because most articles from that site become very hot and get fanboys all worked up. Hey, did you know, its illegal to get fanboys all worked up.


3 - Sarcastic Gamer - http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/

Well sometimes i read reports about articles that come from this site that "its from Sarcastic Gamer, you can not trust anything that they say" or something very similar.

Well got other sites that n4g members love to hate? It would be great if we made a really long list and reasons why n4g members hate them


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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 11:54:19   
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XboxKings STEALS STORIES!
They don't credit their sources and try to make everything they report look as if they're the original source. Only when they're caught they edit their stories to make it look as if it was always there.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 12:07:23   
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ah
i did not know that
well the current issue with my site, issue that i think that some people have with my sit

is that i embed videos from other sites, hmm thats wierd, i do something that i am allowed to do and i get blamed for doing it
just great
Who ever said that a site must be totally original and have original content? Thats not possible for every site in the world
i am trying to get original content to my site but am currently unable to



No one is willing to tell me what issues they have with my site - i want to know the issue so that i can try to fix that issue

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 14:15:30   
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There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 15:20:18   
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There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 


There is nothing wrong with the site if you are a 360 fanboy that is, and it is actually radically different from any other 360 brand site by the fact that they seem to focus more on hating the PS3 than loving the 360 and the site REEKS of that: "PS3 bashing time", "Sony lies", when they tried to post 12 times a PS3 bashing article on N4G or the fact that Bloodmask posted TWICE on that site the outdated article he plagiarized from IGN bashing the PS3 among MANY similar ones and just because recently they decided to post "legit" articles many as reported by users here were stolen from other sites and later edited doesn't mean they are "OK" now

and do we even have to go to the fact that THE worst 360 fanboys from N4G are the key members of the site? 

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 16:43:39   
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There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 


There is nothing wrong with the site if you are a 360 fanboy that is, and it is actually radically different from any other 360 brand site by the fact that they seem to focus more on hating the PS3 than loving the 360 and the site REEKS of that: "PS3 bashing time", "Sony lies", when they tried to post 12 times a PS3 bashing article on N4G or the fact that Bloodmask posted TWICE on that site the outdated article he plagiarized from IGN bashing the PS3 among MANY similar ones and just because recently they decided to post "legit" articles many as reported by users here were stolen from other sites and later edited doesn't mean they are "OK" now

and do we even have to go to the fact that THE worst 360 fanboys from N4G are the key members of the site? 


You'll have to show me that article, also you'll also have to provide some solid evidence against those members. I don't go by rumors and speculation like the majority of you guys.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 17:26:19   
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Only one little example of the uncredited info they use:

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPendingCom-162770.aspx#C1241327

As long as it's a decent article written by them,no worries. But this one,despite your 'skeptical' approach,you
can't deny,was basically a rip-off.

(The article,not the comment)

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jun.-30th-2008 18:50:49   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BloodySinner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Charlie2688

quote:

ORIGINAL: BloodySinner

There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 


There is nothing wrong with the site if you are a 360 fanboy that is, and it is actually radically different from any other 360 brand site by the fact that they seem to focus more on hating the PS3 than loving the 360 and the site REEKS of that: "PS3 bashing time", "Sony lies", when they tried to post 12 times a PS3 bashing article on N4G or the fact that Bloodmask posted TWICE on that site the outdated article he plagiarized from IGN bashing the PS3 among MANY similar ones and just because recently they decided to post "legit" articles many as reported by users here were stolen from other sites and later edited doesn't mean they are "OK" now

and do we even have to go to the fact that THE worst 360 fanboys from N4G are the key members of the site? 


You'll have to show me that article, also you'll also have to provide some solid evidence against those members. I don't go by rumors and speculation like the majority of you guys.


Rumors? what rumors? all the reports from the uncredited stories can be found either on that articles report section the forum report thread were users complained to the mods, you can find other reports marked as duplicates since they were literally taken from the original harry190 gave you a nice example, what more evidence do you want I hope your are not asking about the bashing from xboxkings I mean...just go to the site they don't really do much to hide it...its all there

hopefully you are asking for real evidence cuz you are genuinely skeptical (I mean your self admitted super pal Bloodmask is involved) and you are not playing the "they can never do wrong" or the "last year didn't happened" role SO many users seem to be using this days  

oh and contrary to what a "select" group of users here on N4G think (and want others to think) a LOT of users that are here from last year DO remember specific users and there actions (I mean the site went to hell several times cuz of them) so pretending to be saints and "neutral gamers" this year its kind of silly :) specially considering how there sainthood seems to be (constantly) contradicted by some very impulsive actions they keep doing

Ill leave you to think about that :)

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-1th-2008 5:19:15   
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Define for me a good article written by a professional and I will let you know what I think of Xboxkings. Is this professional?

1. Come up with an idea. Let's say you spot a nice article, like this one. You like the idea and want to make list of your own.

2. You copy the opening segment of that article and paste it in your article and below that you write two sentences of your own.

3. Come up with 26 games you like. Copy and paste just about every bit of info about the games from Wikipedia.

4. Find some images and you're done.

Is this professional?

1. Find a nice article, preferably 3 years old, like this one.

2. Copy and paste everything. Rearrange the text and you're done.

Is this professional?

1. Find a nice advert like this one. Read the text "This product includes a video preview of Gears of War 2" and write "Will Epic include the Gears Of War 2 beta with Unreal III?" and you're done.

Is this professional?

1. Find a nice interview like this one. Listen to it carefully and find some quotes you like.

2. Make your very own article and don't credit the source. Well, you can credit the source later if someone tells you to.

Did I say these examples weren't professional? No. What do I know, I'm not a professional.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-1th-2008 11:21:52   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jazzking2001

is that i embed videos from other sites, hmm thats wierd, i do something that i am allowed to do and i get blamed for doing it
just great
Who ever said that a site must be totally original and have original content? Thats not possible for every site in the world
i am trying to get original content to my site but am currently unable to

No one is willing to tell me what issues they have with my site - i want to know the issue so that i can try to fix that issue


As far as I'm aware, watermarked images and videos don't matter, the publishers own the rights, not the websites.

Make sure you source them correctly thought.

In terms of original content, contact the PR reps and never give up. Sort out the default Joomla template you have first though, it hurts my eyes ;)

In terms of sites I like:

www.avidgamer.co.uk. I wonder why... (hint - I'm the ed)

www.strategyinformer.co.uk I like their editor Jamie, but I'm biased again because I contribute to it.

And this site :D

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-4th-2008 12:14:19   
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ORIGINAL: Charlie2688

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ORIGINAL: BloodySinner

There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 


There is nothing wrong with the site if you are a 360 fanboy that is, and it is actually radically different from any other 360 brand site by the fact that they seem to focus more on hating the PS3 than loving the 360 and the site REEKS of that: "PS3 bashing time", "Sony lies", when they tried to post 12 times a PS3 bashing article on N4G or the fact that Bloodmask posted TWICE on that site the outdated article he plagiarized from IGN bashing the PS3 among MANY similar ones and just because recently they decided to post "legit" articles many as reported by users here were stolen from other sites and later edited doesn't mean they are "OK" now

and do we even have to go to the fact that THE worst 360 fanboys from N4G are the key members of the site? 


Well well... I'll react in this thread that's so hot on Xboxkings, because... It seems logical to talk about the site were I am involved in, right?

First off: yes, we are 360 focussed and we are harsh against the PS3. That's a choice. There are sites that are focussed on pleasing everyone with every console there is, there are sites that say they're 360 or PS3 focussed and only talk about their console of choice. After checking a lot of sites, we noticed there weren't many sites that give a place to die hard 360 fans who also think that the competition in many ways overpromises&underdelivers.

So yes, we made 'PS3 bashing time', mostly for the fun and pleasure of 360 die hards that visit Xboxkings. May I remind you that here on N4G the Sony Defence Force/Protection Group is pretty active and shoots down even legit stories that are negative for the PS3. Heck, they even made legit 360 stories of XBK fail, just becuase they're having a defending strategy in place, where they mailed each other to make complots of getting the most PS3 stories on the main page and as few as possible 360 stories.

About 'stolen' posts, I can say this:

First off: we don't have superadmins that can check every news poster all day. On XBK newsposters have an own responsibility about their quality of postings. So if some things are not mentioned, make sure you contact the person on XBK. Second: some things also happened just because a person doesn't know the internet rules. Really, some think: this story is all around the web so I can't see the original source at this moment so I guess its ok to post it without. That ain't good, but as I said: superadmins aren't on it 24h a day. We also can't implement a user driven system like N4G. At least not yet. We might not want it also, because of the influence people can have if they team up, as I said like the Sony Protection Group/Defence Force does.

Actually Xboxkings is started to give you the best news/video's in the end of the day and not ALL the news like N4G does. So you don't have to scroll through 20 pages of news items, but just 1 or 2. News will not be the main item, there are several systems developed at the moment that will make the total experience different then just a news site with a forum.

In the end, sites like the Sony Defence Force/Protection Group and NextgenIreland (that is totally the same as the SDF/SPG) are way off totally and in my personal view are one of a kind.

If there are people around here that want to become a newsposter/reviewer @ Xboxkings, you're more then welcome to PM me, on N4G mail or on themart@xboxkings.com


Cheers! Mart

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-4th-2008 12:23:57   
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Welcome to the forums Mart! I understand why you didn't reply to my post. I suppose I brought up some touchy issues. Good luck with the site!

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-4th-2008 13:21:26   
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Suede, I just picked one from the top that touched all things in a few lines.

Second: never suppose anything. Supposing is close to guessing. Guessing mostly turns out to be giving the wrong answer.

Third: thanks for me welcoming to the forum. Although I won't spend so much time here, it's less fun then posting messages on the articles.

So you're from Sweden. I studied there for a half year some years ago. Your country is nice dude. Although the alcohol is freaking expensive

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-4th-2008 13:53:21   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheMART at Xboxkings

quote:

ORIGINAL: Charlie2688

quote:

ORIGINAL: BloodySinner

There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 


There is nothing wrong with the site if you are a 360 fanboy that is, and it is actually radically different from any other 360 brand site by the fact that they seem to focus more on hating the PS3 than loving the 360 and the site REEKS of that: "PS3 bashing time", "Sony lies", when they tried to post 12 times a PS3 bashing article on N4G or the fact that Bloodmask posted TWICE on that site the outdated article he plagiarized from IGN bashing the PS3 among MANY similar ones and just because recently they decided to post "legit" articles many as reported by users here were stolen from other sites and later edited doesn't mean they are "OK" now

and do we even have to go to the fact that THE worst 360 fanboys from N4G are the key members of the site? 


Well well... I'll react in this thread that's so hot on Xboxkings, because... It seems logical to talk about the site were I am involved in, right?

First off: yes, we are 360 focussed and we are harsh against the PS3. That's a choice. There are sites that are focussed on pleasing everyone with every console there is, there are sites that say they're 360 or PS3 focussed and only talk about their console of choice. After checking a lot of sites, we noticed there weren't many sites that give a place to die hard 360 fans who also think that the competition in many ways overpromises&underdelivers.

So yes, we made 'PS3 bashing time', mostly for the fun and pleasure of 360 die hards that visit Xboxkings. May I remind you that here on N4G the Sony Defence Force/Protection Group is pretty active and shoots down even legit stories that are negative for the PS3. Heck, they even made legit 360 stories of XBK fail, just becuase they're having a defending strategy in place, where they mailed each other to make complots of getting the most PS3 stories on the main page and as few as possible 360 stories.

About 'stolen' posts, I can say this:

First off: we don't have superadmins that can check every news poster all day. On XBK newsposters have an own responsibility about their quality of postings. So if some things are not mentioned, make sure you contact the person on XBK. Second: some things also happened just because a person doesn't know the internet rules. Really, some think: this story is all around the web so I can't see the original source at this moment so I guess its ok to post it without. That ain't good, but as I said: superadmins aren't on it 24h a day. We also can't implement a user driven system like N4G. At least not yet. We might not want it also, because of the influence people can have if they team up, as I said like the Sony Protection Group/Defence Force does.

Actually Xboxkings is started to give you the best news/video's in the end of the day and not ALL the news like N4G does. So you don't have to scroll through 20 pages of news items, but just 1 or 2. News will not be the main item, there are several systems developed at the moment that will make the total experience different then just a news site with a forum.

In the end, sites like the Sony Defence Force/Protection Group and NextgenIreland (that is totally the same as the SDF/SPG) are way off totally and in my personal view are one of a kind.

If there are people around here that want to become a newsposter/reviewer @ Xboxkings, you're more then welcome to PM me, on N4G mail or on themart@xboxkings.com


Cheers! Mart


Thanks Mart for the response its good to see you taking responsibility for your site :)

Welcome to the forums too :D

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-4th-2008 14:09:45   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheMART at Xboxkings

quote:

ORIGINAL: Charlie2688

quote:

ORIGINAL: BloodySinner

There's nothing wrong with Xbox Kings. It's no different than any other gaming site that focuses on the Xbox brand. 


There is nothing wrong with the site if you are a 360 fanboy that is, and it is actually radically different from any other 360 brand site by the fact that they seem to focus more on hating the PS3 than loving the 360 and the site REEKS of that: "PS3 bashing time", "Sony lies", when they tried to post 12 times a PS3 bashing article on N4G or the fact that Bloodmask posted TWICE on that site the outdated article he plagiarized from IGN bashing the PS3 among MANY similar ones and just because recently they decided to post "legit" articles many as reported by users here were stolen from other sites and later edited doesn't mean they are "OK" now

and do we even have to go to the fact that THE worst 360 fanboys from N4G are the key members of the site? 


Well well... I'll react in this thread that's so hot on Xboxkings, because... It seems logical to talk about the site were I am involved in, right?

First off: yes, we are 360 focussed and we are harsh against the PS3. That's a choice. There are sites that are focussed on pleasing everyone with every console there is, there are sites that say they're 360 or PS3 focussed and only talk about their console of choice. After checking a lot of sites, we noticed there weren't many sites that give a place to die hard 360 fans who also think that the competition in many ways overpromises&underdelivers.

So yes, we made 'PS3 bashing time', mostly for the fun and pleasure of 360 die hards that visit Xboxkings. May I remind you that here on N4G the Sony Defence Force/Protection Group is pretty active and shoots down even legit stories that are negative for the PS3. Heck, they even made legit 360 stories of XBK fail, just becuase they're having a defending strategy in place, where they mailed each other to make complots of getting the most PS3 stories on the main page and as few as possible 360 stories.

About 'stolen' posts, I can say this:

First off: we don't have superadmins that can check every news poster all day. On XBK newsposters have an own responsibility about their quality of postings. So if some things are not mentioned, make sure you contact the person on XBK. Second: some things also happened just because a person doesn't know the internet rules. Really, some think: this story is all around the web so I can't see the original source at this moment so I guess its ok to post it without. That ain't good, but as I said: superadmins aren't on it 24h a day. We also can't implement a user driven system like N4G. At least not yet. We might not want it also, because of the influence people can have if they team up, as I said like the Sony Protection Group/Defence Force does.

Actually Xboxkings is started to give you the best news/video's in the end of the day and not ALL the news like N4G does. So you don't have to scroll through 20 pages of news items, but just 1 or 2. News will not be the main item, there are several systems developed at the moment that will make the total experience different then just a news site with a forum.

In the end, sites like the Sony Defence Force/Protection Group and NextgenIreland (that is totally the same as the SDF/SPG) are way off totally and in my personal view are one of a kind.

If there are people around here that want to become a newsposter/reviewer @ Xboxkings, you're more then welcome to PM me, on N4G mail or on themart@xboxkings.com


Cheers! Mart


You being involved with XBK had nothing to do with the inconsistency found in quoting sources.
However, thanks for the response, duly noted. I have nothing against you per say it was just an observation.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-5th-2008 3:13:05   
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I really hate Gamers Blorge and PSXextreme.

The first just because it just seems plain one sided. I can almost relate to the Sony fans complaining about 1up, IGN, Eurogamer, and whatever other site it is that day.

PSXextreme just has a lot of garbage articles. It is quite fustrating when my articles (which have an extreme amount of hard work put into them) get forgotten about, meanwhile a 200 word PSXextreme article with a catchy title becomes the hottest and most recognized article on N4G.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-5th-2008 6:51:03   
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Well NextgenIreland.com

But as far as I see the website already is taken down. Which makes perfect sense to me because it was the Sony Protection Group in disguise. They gave Lair a 9.6, Warhawk a 9.5 and Heavenly Sword a 9.7.

Right....

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-5th-2008 8:22:48   
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Well NextgenIreland.com

But as far as I see the website already is taken down. Which makes perfect sense to me because it was the Sony Protection Group in disguise. They gave Lair a 9.6, Warhawk a 9.5 and Heavenly Sword a 9.7.

Right....



It's all opinion, and of course a pro-PS3 site is going to have a different opinion to you. Personally, I think Halo 3 getting 10/10 scores was ridiculous, but i'm not going to let someone else's opinion, no matter how biased or jaded it is, bother me.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-5th-2008 8:55:33   
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Nah dude, thats not an opinion. Its a structural dissorder. They just give any PS3 game above a 9.5 or so. They didn't review at all, they just push market some pro Sony blabla. Dude, with Xboxkings we would give a 360 game that sucks a bad mark.

When Lair is an average of what, 5.6 average

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=lair

Yes XBK is pro 360. But to call NextgenIreland just pro PS3 isn't right. They were Sony Protection Group brainwashed.

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RE: Sites you love to hate and why? - Jul.-5th-2008 9:21:20   
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Look, I see what you're saying, but to me, both sides of this fictional console war between the 360 and PS3 are exactly the same, with one side making near-identical compaints about the other. To me, it's just silly, I don't like to get involved with this SPG or MSPG stuff, it's a bit of a joke, to be honest.

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