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Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 19:27:30

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There's no doubt that Europe is Sony's biggest asset, but when it comes to game releases, updates, and well...anything PS3 related it seems like Europe is always in the backseat with Sony while Japan and America are in the front seat. Why is this?

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 19:28:24

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More sales in America/Japan?

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 19:30:45

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They don't make the things in europe. Shipping and diesel costs also affect what is brought to our shores.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 19:36:37

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Europe is not only about the UK. There you go. Localisation and other things come into
consideration. However,lately the PS Store updates are better for Europeans. hey get stuff earlier.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 19:38:12

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ORIGINAL: -Neon-

They don't make the things in europe. Shipping and diesel costs also affect what is brought to our shores.

That may be true but that doesn't explain why Europeans gets demo and other playstation updates later than American. For example, Qore and the Metal Gear Solid 4 database.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 19:40:57

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its not something exclusive to sony
every company shuns europe

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:05:40

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Le-mo

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ORIGINAL: -Neon-

They don't make the things in europe. Shipping and diesel costs also affect what is brought to our shores.

That may be true but that doesn't explain why Europeans gets demo and other playstation updates later than American. For example, Qore and the Metal Gear Solid 4 database.

I know, xbox live did it right, sony needs to have unified store, with localized servers for whichever country the accounts registered to in order to relieve bandwidth stress off the servers...

And don't be so sure, americans get content first, but Japan gets everything first, including exclusive final fantasy and xenosaga and g police and tomba and other ps1 titles to downlod, and a bunch of other stuff...

Why didn't sony make a global store?Does it make sense wasting manning resources to individually manage stores when they can bring all the content to one global store?

What I'd suggest to you is make an american account, and buy ps cards either at ur store or online, then you can use them to buy stuff off the american store...if you don't want to buy anything you can just download american stuff, it's free and easy for now, the same goes for it you want japan content and anything else...

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:07:34

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Can you get the PS cards in Europe? I haven't seen any yet.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:09:52

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Can you get the PS cards in Europe? I haven't seen any yet.

You're right, you can't pal countries get shunned again by Sony, which is Sony's biggest unit share out of all its total sold, ironic isn't it?

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:12:42

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Can you get the PS cards in Europe? I haven't seen any yet.

You're right, you can't pal countries get shunned again by Sony, which is Sony's biggest unit share out of all its total sold, ironic isn't it?

That sucks, cuz I don't have access to a credit card. My guess is they couldn't be bothered sorting out all the legal stuff to be able to sell the cards in all the different countries.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:23:22

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As you may know I am VERY disappointed in SCEE. There are many examples of where products have needed little to NO localisation & Europe routinely gets these late or not at all. Nintendo & Microsoft do the same, however Sony is in a different league to shunning Europe.

Of the top of my head I have a few examples:

The US often gets demos 1/2/3 weeks before Europe, despite the fact that they are always often available on Live in Europe, so they have already been translated etc, so why the hold up?

I see no reason why we should have an inferior Store layout, I've used both & the US store is obviously better - this I don't understand.

Store content we get late or not at all. I cannot believe the 'localisation' for Everyday Shooter warranted a 4 odd month delay, I also see no reason why we don't have Echochrome. We do not even have the Oblivion expansion available on the store, despite the fat it is available on blu-ray form, meaning it's been fully 'localised'.

The DuelShock 3 release was 'immanent' many months ago & we have still heard nothing! Also nothing mentioned at all on a 80gb PS3, the only one available in Europe is the 40gb & has been for quite some time.

General lack of communication - there is nothing like the US Blog - it's like hitting your head against a brick wall with them. SCEA have actually responded to complaints of European PS3 owners while SCEE have remained silent - I just don't understand it.

Every Thursday when we get content late or not at all is now just a further reminder of the incompetence of SCEE.

Kaz Hirai has recently, in many interviews, spoke of recognising these issues in SCEE, I just hope he can do something about them.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:25:27

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Localization. Nothing more.

And the European Laws.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:30:14

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quote:

ORIGINAL: harry190

Europe is not only about the UK. There you go. Localisation and other things come into
consideration. However,lately the PS Store updates are better for Europeans. hey get stuff earlier.

Above are the words of a wise man.....

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:30:36

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ORIGINAL: DrPirate

Localization. Nothing more.

And the European Laws.

Then why are games & demos released weeks earlier on Live in Europe?

Surely they have to do through the same localisation process?

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 20:45:05

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Then why are games & demos released weeks earlier on Live in Europe?

Surely they have to do through the same localisation process?

Sony has more strict certification process than MS or lazy work or doesn't care the EU market much.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 21:34:30

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Muzzle Flash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Le-mo

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ORIGINAL: -Neon-

They don't make the things in europe. Shipping and diesel costs also affect what is brought to our shores.

That may be true but that doesn't explain why Europeans gets demo and other playstation updates later than American. For example, Qore and the Metal Gear Solid 4 database.

I know, xbox live did it right, sony needs to have unified store, with localized servers for whichever country the accounts registered to in order to relieve bandwidth stress off the servers...

And don't be so sure, americans get content first, but Japan gets everything first, including exclusive final fantasy and xenosaga and g police and tomba and other ps1 titles to downlod, and a bunch of other stuff...

Why didn't sony make a global store?Does it make sense wasting manning resources to individually manage stores when they can bring all the content to one global store?

What I'd suggest to you is make an american account, and buy ps cards either at ur store or online, then you can use them to buy stuff off the american store...if you don't want to buy anything you can just download american stuff, it's free and easy for now, the same goes for it you want japan content and anything else...

sadly your are probably NEVER gonna see a "global store" or "Universal PSN" and instead of posting the mega explanation I gave another user that also didn't understood how the world works I am gonna summarize it

licensing, approval systems, localization and contracts

the end

and no contrary to the bizarre popular belief people have been making in this threads Live marketplace is NOT universal, just go to the Japanese one to see how massively different the content is or just try downloading some of Dead Risings extra content to see that unless you are in US (that or Europe was it?) it will tell you it cant be accessed in your territory -_-

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 21:38:53

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Because you drive on the wrong side of the road.

also, it probally has somthing to due to more sales in North America and Asia, so these places are priority.

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 21:55:51

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Games..maybe because of the different languages =S
We know JPN gets Japanese games first because there's no need for translations and whatever. So, that may be the case.

Of course, I'm just some random dude on the interweb providing you with my opinion, so don't be like "OMG, BUT GOLEAFSGO TOLD ME OTHERWISE!!!!!"

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 22:02:14

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All 3 are really bad in Europe.

In order from worst to best though:

Nintendo -> Sony -> MS

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RE: Why does Europeans always get shun by Sony? - Jun.-27th-2008 23:39:51

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ORIGINAL: bama

All 3 are really bad in Europe.

In order from worst to best though:

Nintendo -> Sony -> MS

i would say

Nintendo = Sony and then > MS

Nintendo = brawl delay...lol and no more heroes with no ****ing blood! sony = sent crap hardware to PAL, Everyday shooter delay as long as brawl, PS3 games more costly than 360 multiplats, Late and overpriced DS3

MS = My region AUS doesnt have inside xbox or Video marketplace. but Games are usually same day release with US.

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