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Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:01 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com...tary-school/?hpt=hp_t1

Wow. Prayers for this school and community. 

I want to cry right now

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:04 PM
goddammit the death toll went up to 27

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:08 PM
just saw it on the news


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:09 PM
****ing sick. Why are there so many physco's in the US?


 

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:11 PM
KEVERS


****ing sick. Why are there so many physco's in the US?



Well for one it doesn't help the amount of attention these things are getting. Two, there are how many millions of people living in the US? Gotta have at least one psycho for every million or so. 


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:12 PM
Seriously disgusting, I hope the families for strength during this time but damn... not much you can really do at this point. ****ing psycho. What's the mass shooting count up to in US this year? This **** is getting out of hand. 

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:16 PM
Gunman is dead was it a classmate or just random joe? i didnt read or watch most on the news about it

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:30 PM
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Gunman is dead was it a classmate or just random joe? i didnt read or watch most on the news about it



It was an adult. 2 adult shooters were  possibly involved

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:34 PM
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Gunman is dead was it a classmate or just random joe? i didnt read or watch most on the news about it



It was an adult. 2 adult shooters were  possibly involved





Staff members? wtf? maybe i need to click the link or watch the news... didnt know it was a K-4th Graders thought it was a high school or jr high
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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 12:58 PM
Apparently it was a 20 year old dude.

I've gotta say though, imagine what life would be like if we had internet in the 1500s. "Oh my god napoleon just beheaded 200 people #whatamonster".


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:08 PM
27 killed, 18 of them children. So ****ed up.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:09 PM
Dec 21st rly needs to hry the fk up. I hope the world ends for everyone. Only then will we truly be unified in a single event in which we all can decree to being characterized as a united species.

Fk humans


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:11 PM
Ugh this is terrible. I saw the story on the news earlier and at the time they were simply saying "multiple injuries" and that the gunmen had died. 

I'm torn up inside, but as the United States mass shootings continue with little or no consequence, my sympathy declines. I'm assuming that just like the shooting in Colorado, there will be almost zero change to gun control laws after this shooting. Which means that this will inevitably happen again. Probably within only a few weeks judging by the patterns as of late.

USA: The redcoats aren't coming anymore. Get rid of your mother effing guns.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:13 PM
To bad more good people were not allowed to carry guns... maybe if some fo the teachers were armed and trained they could have killed him way before this got out of hand....


THoughts and prayers to all the families... 
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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:14 PM
@Neverending

You obviously cannot comprehend the **** that would go down if more laws are put in place for guns. The people that have them will never give them up. They believe it's their right. Not to mention, look at what happened when someone enforced more rules on someone else. Well one example was the American Revolution.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:16 PM
This is a **** disgusting world.Humans are an error,meant for nothingness.

Check out the other side of the world.

http://worldnews.nbcnews....ol-gates-in-china?lite



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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:21 PM
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@Neverending

You obviously cannot comprehend the **** that would go down if more laws are put in place for guns. The people that have them will never give them up. They believe it's their right. Not to mention, look at what happened when someone enforced more rules on someone else. Well one example was the American Revolution.





That is not true at all the places with the most strict gun crimes have some of the highest gun crimes...  More good people with weapons have prevented more crimes than ever... the huge problem is that is not what they want on the news if people don;t suffer than it is not news worthy , If people are not dying or suffering or some sort of tragic event ... than it can't be on the news... or they don;t make movies about the event... they message the deliver is always one sided.... it is sad....


You turn on the news and it is nothing but death crimes and atrocities.....


You have a situation of one bad guy that killed about 10 adults... imagine if 5 were armed... 

that... said...

I think it was wrong to bring up what I said...  did not mean to turn this into a debate about guns... 



Sorry ZNP I thought you were talking to me on what I said.. did not even see @neverending comment...
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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:21 PM
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@Neverending

You obviously cannot comprehend the **** that would go down if more laws are put in place for guns. The people that have them will never give them up. They believe it's their right. Not to mention, look at what happened when someone enforced more rules on someone else. Well one example was the American Revolution.



Debating gun control here would be inappropriate, so I'm not going to go there. But what you're saying describes what dozens, maybe hundreds of countries have all already gone through. From relying on guns to transitioning gun-free (not literally). These news reports aren't going to stop until someone finds a solution, that's all I'm saying.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:23 PM
This makes me want to cry. I don't know what to say here.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:24 PM
@Fatman 

No no, I'm agreeing with you.

@Neverending

I'd say this is as good as any other place, considering this event has spurred on more people asking for it. The difference between those countries and USA is that those countries do not have the massive population of people that the US has. So imagine trying to disarm a people who equal to one of those single country's entire populations.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:25 PM
FAT MAN GO BOOM


To bad more good people were not allowed to carry guns... maybe if some fo the teachers were armed and trained they could have killed him way before this got out of hand....


THoughts and prayers to all the families... 





dumbest **** I read all day. Leave it to you. 


 

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:29 PM
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FAT MAN GO BOOM


To bad more good people were not allowed to carry guns... maybe if some fo the teachers were armed and trained they could have killed him way before this got out of hand....


THoughts and prayers to all the families... 





dumbest **** I read all day. Leave it to you. 



He is right Kevers, he is very right. Schools are a big no carry zone. I have my CCW permit and it is a felony for me to carry in a school. If teachers were armed or if there was a police officer stationed there this might not have been as tragic. 


I agree that it is not appropriate to discuss gun laws here. A bunch of children were murdered today, this is a time to think about what monsters the human race has bred and mourn for those innocent children.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:31 PM
I know these types of threads get derailed quickly in here.I think we shoukd use this thread only to discuss thw incident out of respect.Create a new thread foe gun discussion and go crazy there.  

This is an awful event. Thoughts and prayers to the poor children involved and their loved ones.  No ine should ever lose someone like this, much less a child
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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:32 PM
@FAT/Noc - You make me embarrassed to be pro-gun.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:32 PM
lol I know every time **** happens like this people come out of the wood work and give all these "solutions" to fix this. 

But there is such a huge long ass list of issues that arent address, this isn't just gun control. The economy/society is in the gutter and mental diseases is growing. 

Worst thing that can happen is the government uses things like this, situations that scare the public, to take more control cause people allow them to. Horrible **** will always happen and right now everyone is pointing the finger at each other to put the blame on it. 

**** aint that simple. 

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:35 PM
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@FAT/Noc - You make me embarrassed to be pro-gun.



Why? 

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:35 PM
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****ing sick. Why are there so many physco's in the world?
Fixed and no answer for you.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:38 PM
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He is right Kevers, he is very right. Schools are a big no carry zone.
FOR GOOD REASON!  Safety!  Seriously?  You think having guns around a large group of children all day long is safe?   Get out of here with that crap.  I'm not anti-gun and I think that's stupid.


Look, stop making this about gun rights.  No matter what happens, someone is going to kill a lot of other people.  Whether everyone is carrying a gun or not doesn't change that.  



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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:49 PM
i know the topic of gun control was coming up.... come on kids just lost their lives today..young innocent.....im surprise the mods havent shut this down yet before it downword sprile like Dark Knight and many other threads...lets just try to keep it civil and say best wishes to families of both sides....lets keep the gun control and all that to are selfs

and i know ive been know to lose it when somebody saids something smart but everytime this topic comes up we all fight with each other

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:49 PM
Enough with gun rights discussions.These were children.In school.This has nothing to do with guns,just crimes against humanity.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:53 PM
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@FAT/Noc - You make me proud to be pro-gun.

Accurate. 

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:55 PM
What makes a monster?

Also, congratulations to all the major media outlets. 
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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 1:59 PM
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What makes a monster?



Society? Bad parenting? I honestly do not know what gets in these people's heads. I don't understand how a person can walk into an elementary school with kids ages 6-10 and kill them. How much of a piece of **** do you have to be to be able to do that?

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:01 PM
Fox News blaming games...again.

Saying we lack empathy and have no ability to distinguish fiction from reality.

Surprise ****ing surprise.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:02 PM
To all ppl who are pro gun: u state that we need guns to protect ourselves and fight back just in case the govt ever tries to take over correct? But can't they just do that anyway? Whether we have guns or not? If this is truly the rhetoric of pro gun advocates then I kno exactly who to blame for occurrences such as the one that happen today. The military takes over entire countries u rly think a few 9mm handguns and hunting rifles are goin to stop the entire military from taking over? Lets be real


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:04 PM
PeeWizzle
What makes a monster?
We are not at that level of understanding.  The human brain is one of the most complex computers we know of and we still get Blue Screens of Death on our Windows PCs.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:08 PM
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What makes a monster?

Also, congratulations to all the major media outlets. 



It'd be easier to ask what doesn't make a monster. You have to think, was this person mentally disturbed? Did they think of themselves as some sort of hero perhaps? Were they angry at something? What events led up to this?

I actually looked through his facebook, and he looked like a normalish person who probably browsed random internet sites all night, and had few friends. There are some videos of him having fun too. So maybe something made him snap? Maybe something bad happened at that school that traumatized him for life thus he sought revenge. We'll never actually know.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:13 PM
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To all ppl who are pro gun: u state that we need guns to protect ourselves and fight back just in case the govt ever tries to take over correct? But can't they just do that anyway? Whether we have guns or not? If this is truly the rhetoric of pro gun advocates then I kno exactly who to blame for occurrences such as the one that happen today. The military takes over entire countries u rly think a few 9mm handguns and hunting rifles are goin to stop the entire military from taking over? Lets be real



No. Originally guns were kept by the citizens in case the government needs taken down. Now that is not the case. I have guns to protect myself and my family from monsters that shoot up schools, shopping malls, movie theaters, city streets and from people that try to forcibly harm me or my family.

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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:16 PM
Hold off on the Facebook and Twitter accounts.Turns out those don't belong to the shooter.


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Re:Around 20 killed in elementary school shooting. 10 kids are possibly dead :( - Friday, December 14, 2012 2:18 PM
Pointless discussing gun laws, if people want to inflict harm on others they'll find a way be it guns, bombs, chemicals etc.
 
As for saying it was a shame the teachers were not carrying guns ...what if a teacher decides to go off the rails. Brilliant idea, chuck a gun in his/her hand and put 'em in a school...
 
regardless, its f*cked up that more often thatn not this kind of thing primarily happens at schools, at which point does shooting up a school become a rational idea to these people?
 

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