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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 8:45:53   
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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 14:56:59   
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I have no reason to lie, the leaked version is everywhere over the net.
people can download it easy. Also you dont have to believe me, thats not my problem

"which is killing everything that is out or has been out for...10 years. "

I just i dont like the game, how is it killing everything out there?
maybe im one of those who dont like it, the minority, but how is it killing everything out there?

you arent giving me answers, you are just saying " its the best game ever".
I call it BS because if that were true everyone would like it.

And no matter how you defend it, saying how good the game is, it wont change the fact that there are people who dont like it.

So WHY use the argument: " ill be playing GTA "


I'm not using it as an argument, is there a screw lose in your brain? Many screws?

All I'm saying is, it's the best game this year, and it doesn't matter what you or I think, it just is.
Why don't you matter? Because you don't. What matters is that it's the most well received, highest rated by critics, and is heading to sell a large number of copies, beyond whatever records were held for last year. Therefore, it is the biggest and best game release of the year in general terms.

Stop being such a whiny kid about it. All I'm saying is, you have to admit GTA is probably the best sandbox title out there right now, even if you don't like that type of game. I saw you bring it up which is why I replied. I'm not dissing the Wii, nor have I in this thread.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 15:05:04   
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well really highest so far.  Only what 17 reviews?  Games these days get a little over 100.  I'm sure people are going to start rating it like it should be which is somewhere in the high 80's.

The best game it is not.  Does it have the casual gamer wanting to buy it?  Yes it does which is why it'll sell a boat load like the Wii is.  All you need is a game aimed at the casual gamer.  Why is it a bad thing Nintendo does it but awesome when Rockstar does it?  Because they let you kill grannies instead of goombas? 

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 15:09:45   
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well really highest so far.  Only what 17 reviews?  Games these days get a little over 100.  I'm sure people are going to start rating it like it should be which is somewhere in the high 80's.

The best game it is not.  Does it have the casual gamer wanting to buy it?  Yes it does which is why it'll sell a boat load like the Wii is.  All you need is a game aimed at the casual gamer.  Why is it a bad thing Nintendo does it but awesome when Rockstar does it?  Because they let you kill grannies instead of goombas? 


I doubt it. I generally go off of what is said rather than the rating itself, and I also follow IGN. The significance of a 10 given out like that, and the comments, plus the metascore beating Ocarina of time at this moment is significant. BioShock and Halo 3 couldn't do that much, and they got a flurry of 10s, but it never held out early on (something GTA is doing).

It won't stay at a perfect 100, but it's already beating those games in that respect.

I'm not telling this sidar guy to sell his Wii because he's not getting GTA, I just don't understand why he's bashing it.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 15:19:50   
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Yeah it's putting up a good fight but why?  I can see where sidar is coming from because GTA never appealed to me and I'm a male in my late 20's.. so what's up with that!

Everyone says how Mario is the same yet with each GTA it's the same heck even worse than with Mario games.  Different local different main guy but still open area which you can steal cars, run down people, beat them up with a bat and shoot them down too.  All along the settings of underground criminal activity too.  Played GTAIII, you've played San Andreas, Vice City, and IV all in one sitting.  That's how I see it and probably how sidar sees it as well.  Which is why he's bashing it because if Mario gets as much hate as it does for 'being the same' and GTAIV just gets praise for being so 'original' it would get any sane man angry with the sheer hypocrisy of it all.


... I was trying to think why we are talking of GTA on this thread but then it was used to why the Wii isn't the best.  GTA is GTA nothing more nothing less and when you think about it Wii Fit and Mario Kart are the counter points to the game.  Sure nothing that the M rated gamer wants but it still offers great fun which is what gaming is all about.  If Wii doesn't have GTA it'll still be a great console.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 15:23:39   
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Yeah it's putting up a good fight but why?  I can see where sidar is coming from because GTA never appealed to me and I'm a male in my late 20's.. so what's up with that!

Everyone says how Mario is the same yet with each GTA it's the same heck even worse than with Mario games.  Different local different main guy but still open area which you can steal cars, run down people, beat them up with a bat and shoot them down too.  All along the settings of underground criminal activity too.  Played GTAIII, you've played San Andreas, Vice City, and IV all in one sitting.  That's how I see it and probably how sidar sees it as well.  Which is why he's bashing it because if Mario gets as much hate as it does for 'being the same' and GTAIV just gets praise for being so 'original' it would get any sane man angry with the sheer hypocrisy of it all.


... I was trying to think why we are talking of GTA on this thread but then it was used to why the Wii isn't the best.  GTA is GTA nothing more nothing less and when you think about it Wii Fit and Mario Kart are the counter points to the game.  Sure nothing that the M rated gamer wants but it still offers great fun which is what gaming is all about.  If Wii doesn't have GTA it'll still be a great console.


Yeah -- I wasn't disagreeing with that or him. I was responding to the uncalled for GTA hate by defending it, I'm not putting down the Wii.

-- I actually wrote that in my first reply.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 15:26:21   
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Yeah -- I wasn't disagreeing with that or him. I was responding to the uncalled for GTA hate by defending it, I'm not putting down the Wii.


lol yeah I hear you on that.  Last thing I heard Saints Row was a mimic of GTA not the other way around

I can see why people like GTA and I can see what it has done for the industry it just never tripped my trigger, but that doesn't stop me from playing it at a friends house.

edit: ah yes that you did say that in your first reply... well ummm I guess I just kept debating cuz you kept replying to me then   I blame you!! lol

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 16:49:45   
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I have no reason to lie, the leaked version is everywhere over the net.
people can download it easy. Also you dont have to believe me, thats not my problem

"which is killing everything that is out or has been out for...10 years. "

I just i dont like the game, how is it killing everything out there?
maybe im one of those who dont like it, the minority, but how is it killing everything out there?

you arent giving me answers, you are just saying " its the best game ever".
I call it BS because if that were true everyone would like it.

And no matter how you defend it, saying how good the game is, it wont change the fact that there are people who dont like it.

So WHY use the argument: " ill be playing GTA "


I'm not using it as an argument, is there a screw lose in your brain? Many screws?

All I'm saying is, it's the best game this year, and it doesn't matter what you or I think, it just is.
Why don't you matter? Because you don't. What matters is that it's the most well received, highest rated by critics, and is heading to sell a large number of copies, beyond whatever records were held for last year. Therefore, it is the biggest and best game release of the year in general terms.

Stop being such a whiny kid about it. All I'm saying is, you have to admit GTA is probably the best sandbox title out there right now, even if you don't like that type of game. I saw you bring it up which is why I replied. I'm not dissing the Wii, nor have I in this thread.


DID i say you USED it?
im asking why anyone would use that as an argument.
you replied on my post without reading the previous one?

GREAT you replied without even understanding to what i was reacting.

the guy before my post said
" while 360 and PS3 owners are playing GTA in a few days, Wii owners will be playing baseball or boxing with characters with big heads"

SO freaking what , why say this?
like i care if its selling that much but his freaking argument stinks!

ILL BE PLAYING FREAKING TETRIS while you people be playing GTA
SO FREAKING WHAT?

"  you have to admit GTA is probably the best sandbox title out there right now"
you obviously missed the point

I dont like the game, but i never said the content SUCKS, its just not my gameplay.
But since you replied without even knowing to what i was replying i say you should STFU.
if im the whiny kid then you are the most retarted person i ever met on a forum

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Let me point this out, i wasnt going on about the game, that its going to be a hit seller.
It was about the guys lame argument.
get it?

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Also, " while 360 and PS3 owners are playing [] in a few days" is used with many games

guess what ill be playing Freaking tetris in a few seconds.......=/ it sounds so freaking pointless >_<


@PS360Wii
" That's how I see it and probably how sidar sees it as well"
Thnk you, glad to know im not alone XD
And i agree with you completely

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:13:19   
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Let me point this out, i wasnt going on about the game, that its going to be a hit seller.
It was about the guys lame argument.
get it?

Edit:
Also, " while 360 and PS3 owners are playing [] in a few days" is used with many games

guess what ill be playing Freaking tetris in a few seconds.......=/ it sounds so freaking pointless >_<


Yeah, that's fine.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:26:40   
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Beyond the story the game is the same thing, different skin.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:30:01   
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Beyond the story the game is the same thing, different skin.


That's an opinion which most reviewers don't have. If you read any reviewers, they say the opposite of this empty claim.

GTA-nay sayers annoy me, which is the only reason I defended it here, I just didn't realize sidar was only referring to someone's argument.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:33:56   
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Hehe, I'm getting gta cause the story sounds cool lol.  Undecided on which platform because I don't have a ps3 or 360.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:35:19   
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Hehe, I'm getting gta cause the story sounds cool lol.  Undecided on which platform because I don't have a ps3 or 360.


Suit yourself...the story seems decent, I'm mainly getting it for the sandbox element, I just wanna see what a "next gen" sandbox seems like...

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:37:47   
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*sigh* at your next gen marketing hype.  That game is this gen, and that's because the game is not on the PS4 or next Xbox.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:41:13   
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*sigh* at your next gen marketing hype.  That game is this gen, and that's because the game is not on the PS4 or next Xbox.


Notice how "next gen" was in quotation marks, indicating a slight sense of sarcasm you must not have picked up on.

I've played the other GTAs and know how they are, I want something newer and better, and I'm pretty much convinced this will offer it.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:47:05   
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I just feel a real sandbox game would let me recreate the world as I see fit, not just interact with things.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-28th-2008 17:50:45   
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I just feel a real sandbox game would let me recreate the world as I see fit, not just interact with things.


The problem with that is, if not done well, it could and would fail so hard on so many levels.

At this point I'll settle for an excellently designed world to go around in as I see fit, a feat I feel no game has done that well yet.

Now since there's a solid story in the game it makes sense that you can't just turn your character into whoever you see fit, but the amount of things you can do will still be fun.

Anyway, getting on track to the Wii, I'm planning on playing MK Wii soon. How is that?

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-29th-2008 10:11:16   
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Haha, not getting mariokart wii, saving up for wii fit, the anti christ of hardcore gamers.  I'm really appealed to skiing and snowboarding,  If the next ssx uses the balance board it'd be amazing.

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-29th-2008 10:19:50   
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I haven't tried Mario Kart yet but I'll be picking it up today so I'll give you a heads up on it afterwards.  So far I've been hearing good things so we'll see.

Yeah I'm actually pretty happy the Balance Board is coming out soon.  Sure Wii Fit will be dandy to give it a go but I'm with you on the skiing and snowboarding.  That Wii Ski is a stand alone title that uses the balance board for single play and seeing that Wii Fit sold great in Japan and has been doing great in Europe so far something tells me Nintendo may be using the Balance Board for some other games

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RE: The Wii is the best console by far - Apr.-29th-2008 10:55:04   
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I'm currently not too interested in WiiFit but that definitely doesn't mean it's not a great game.  My balance pretty much sucks tho after I stopped taking martial arts so I may eventually pick it up, especially if/when more balance board-compatible games are released.

Mario Kart's currently the game in my Wii and I must say, it is EXTREMELY fun.  The online component is much smoother than Brawl's (which hasn't been too bad for me, but I do experience lag occassionally and it takes me a long time to find other brawlers at times), the music is awesome, and finding ways to boost as much as possible is a welcomed challenge.  And actually, the Wii wheel is much more responsive and usable than I expected it to be.  Bottom line, the game is great.

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