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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-14th-2008 15:12:12   
Catastrophe


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I'll let the restricting mod know you're curious and they'll contact you. Though, if you did call someone an idiot you have much of your answer right there.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-14th-2008 15:38:48   
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ORIGINAL: Catastrophe

I'll let the restricting mod know you're curious and they'll contact you. Though, if you did call someone an idiot you have much of your answer right there.


It was not any worse that anything I've seen on there before (calling people retards and crap without consequence and all that). And I've been called the same thing without anyone doing anything about it (and worse). Hell, I've been called a tool by Torrence Davis so many times now, and he has YET to be called upon that. And six days and three bubbles taken away? C'mon, again, I've seen worse get away with less punishment.

Plus, the person that probably reported it has a history of using the report button as a weapon, so that, too, must be raised, and the context of what I had said. You can say that what people say is idiotic.

I'm not just curious. I'm someone that wants something done about this.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-14th-2008 15:44:49   
Catastrophe


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Mods deal with all reported comments.  If your reported comment was in violation of the GZ guidelines, it was dealt with accordingly.  Similarly, if other members who have done as you say had their comments reported, mods would have dealt with those.  Use the report button.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-14th-2008 15:53:27   
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ORIGINAL: Catastrophe

Mods deal with all reported comments.  If your reported comment was in violation of the GZ guidelines, it was dealt with accordingly.  Similarly, if other members who have done as you say had their comments reported, mods would have dealt with those.  Use the report button.


What I'm saying is that I don't think that is that much of a big deal, or THAT much in violation of the rules.

I'm saying that what I said shouldn't have been brought that much into question or warranted such a harsh punishment as I had. I have already PMed another mod about this, I'm still awaiting an answer. I'm not just looking for a reason behind my ban, but some reinstating.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 2:50:18   
darkpower


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Here's the update, the PM from who I guess was the mod that did it:

quote:

5 hours ago | By: Diselage  |  Block  
Banning If you don't want a ban don't break the rules. There is no need to insult people period. If you feel the need to do it though go to the Open Zone.


(Note that this was NOT the mod that I had PMed. I've yet to hear from him)

Here's my reply to that:
quote:


50 minutes ago | By: darkpower  |  Edit  Delete
Re: Banning Well, look at how Breakfast reports people...I know that I've seen him level so many insults (and I'm sure you've gotten reports about him and the several other X360 fanboys on here that seem to get away with it all the time). He has used it in the past as a weapon, and I know my "insults" (if you could call them that. I don't think it was an insult, as I was talking about his comment) were tame compared to the crap he has pulled (as well as the other x360 fanboys around here. I'm sure that you immediately go after any PS3 "fanboy" on this site the second you get any report like this). They get off easy while I lose three bubbles and get banned for 6 days from the gamer zone, especially when it's tame compared to the crap you've been seeing and hearing about on the GAMER ZONE (and remember, I was replying to something that he made in the GAMER ZONE, so it wasn't like I had much of a choice, it's as if he was trying to GET someone to say something like that and bait them into doing that because he knew he'd get someone. I've seen these guys do that, too), I think is way too harsh and I would love more answers into just what happened to make that "insult" SO bad to warrant such actions, especially if that is the first time for me. I think I deserve more of an explanation besides what you gave. And if you don't do so, I might go to someone else or whoever I got to go to in order to have this resolved, because:

1) I value my reputation on this site as someone who is passionate about his opinions (by the way, my opinion about him being an idiot still stands, and is now even more so because he showed his true colors and reported someone because his feelings were hurt).
2) The punishment was WAY harsh.

I think I deserve more of an explanation and more of an investigation than this. Thank you. Look forward into hearing what you have to say.


I've just sent that some time before posting this, so I haven't gotten anything back about that yet.

And right now, I do sincerely feel as if I was a victim of someone baiting me (or someone) to do something like that to him in order to have happen to him what happened to me.

Because my main concern in all of this has been that I have been calling some people out (mainly the X360 fanboys that run rampant on the Gamer Zone with much more than I did, if I did anything at all) on their "facts", and so have others. Lately, there have been some creative ways that these certain people have gone to in order to "weed out" the people that usually post opinions that they do not want anyone else to read (there have been a few people who which they have done this to besides me). In other words, they become report whores, for lack of a better term. They use the report button on someone that they know that someone will find valid because they have a personal issue with what they said in terms of facts and stuff like that. This has been true of alot of these people on the site lately with news stories (don't like what the story says? Report it so no one even gets a chance to see it, facts in the ariticle be damned), and now it's happening with the people who have been posting on this site.

Recently, too (which raises my suspicion even more), Breakfast (STILL the one who I think pulled the trigger) made a comment about a Metal Gear Solid 4 review that found its way onto N4G.com, in which he was wanting to submit the review to Metacritic in order to have one yellow bar on that site for the game (since all the other "bars" from other reviews that Metacritic considers were green and Breakfast has clearly shown his X360 fanboyism in the past). I had pointed out in a reply to that (this was something he posted onto the comments section, in the Gamer Zone, as well) that it was underhanded of him to do such a thing, and saying it as a joke (assuming it was one) wasn't funny. The suspicion from this is that if he is willing to do something as slimy as that, there is no doubting, at least from my persepctive, that there was something he was trying to do with alot of his posts, as well.

Also keep in mind that this post in question of MINE was in reply to something that he had said in the Gamer Zone. It would've been hard to reply to something that was in the Gamer Zone in the Open Zone without some explanation into who or what I'm talking about (THAT post shouldn't have been in the gamer zone anyway because it didn't add to the conversation). And the trigger was pulled awfully quick to the comment. Which raises my ire even more to this that he was trying to set someone up with that comment that he knew would make a comment that some mod might take as an insult to someone, and BAM, he does it (there was another post below mine that I think was even tamer than my own, but it was deleted and possibly reported, as well). And if he had posted it on the Open Zone and I've said that exact same thing, how would he change his tone in order to make it seem like I was doing something ELSE wrong with that comment? Simpily put, he was trying to get the first person he could with that comment, and I just happened to be that guy that he caught in his trap.

Also, it pains me that I didn't get any further explanation into what happened, which also angers me and surprises me. His explanation is nearly the exact same as the explanation I got in that pop-up window I got when I tried to comment in the Gamer Zone today that made me discover this ban in the first place (I swear he may have actually halfway copied that word for word), which made me wonder why the type of ban and bubble penelty was appropriate for something that was tame (believe it or not, I think idiot is alot tamer than the words I've seen here, and is tame on its own accord). The mod that apparently did this didn't give me any further explanation into the ban itself, let alone how severe it was (it was as if he was saying "how dare you question why you were banned for it?", which is kind of rude on its own and implies that I've always done this type of thing and that I should forever be branded as a criminal because of it).

Seriously, I feel like my reputation has been unfairly damaged because I was caught in this trap, and the mod that did it seemed to just not give a crap about what my side of things are. I'm STILL awaiting the answer from someone higher up on this site as to what EXACTLY happened here (instead of giving me a fill in the blank answer that paints me guilty until proven innocent (GUPI), as this is my first major problem of this kind on this site, and I would like to think that these mods are fair, but it doesn't look like I'm getting a fair treatment right now), and assuming I ever get one, I'm not sure how that will play out. How should I know if the mod was in on the consperiacy and is a hard X360 fanboy, as well (hell, the same Torrence Davis who I was talking about was asking about getting mod status on this forum, I read his posts, so I do believe there has to be someone who has malicious intentions in mind by using authority as a weapon, too). Of course, he could not be one at all and still have done the wrong thing, but then again, how can I know that wasn't the case (the lackluster reply to this only raised my suspicions to this, so I apologize if the fanboy thing wasn't the case here, but I think I have every right to believe that there was something else in play here). The harsh penelty only furthers my suspicions.

So, what up? That's my plea. Hopefully I get some reply which at least tells me that something will happen to make this fair and restore my faith in the mods (believe me, if I thought I deserved such a ban and penelty, I wouldn't be complaining about it this much, and seeing as how I've been very well respected to this point on this site by other members, I think you may want to look at my record before paining me as GUPI or thinking that I would just go around doing this sort of thing all the time like the offending mod did. Trust me, something defenitly was up here).

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 4:41:20   
Montrealien


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nice to see your issue got looked into, what about me? No PM, nothing, and I posted before you....


pls, and thank you

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 5:03:36   
darkpower


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ORIGINAL: Montrealien

nice to see your issue got looked into, what about me? No PM, nothing, and I posted before you....


pls, and thank you


Hmm...not sure....let it be known that I hope your's gets looked into, as well.

It seems like the littlest things are being taken WAY too hard.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 5:30:14   
Montrealien


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quote:

ORIGINAL: darkpower

quote:

ORIGINAL: Montrealien

nice to see your issue got looked into, what about me? No PM, nothing, and I posted before you....


pls, and thank you


Hmm...not sure....let it be known that I hope your's gets looked into, as well.

It seems like the littlest things are being taken WAY too hard.



I think the mods just have so much craziness they lose focus a little. They have to look into the history of the people they are banning from the Gamerzone. They let so many people abuse the bubble boosting and multiple accounts and then drop the axe on an account for one little slip. No warnings and direct ban are a staple of the gamer zone, but a little judgment would be nice to before they drop the ban hammer imho

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 5:39:15   
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People tell us to be harder but not on them? We can't track IP's so tracking people with multiple accounts is not feasible. You want us to ban people for having opinions? "Console x sucks because......................and so I like console y" This is fine people can express their opinions about games thats what is meant for the gamer zone. For some reason it's ok though to say "welcome to N4G loser" or "It actually means that you are a complete idiot"? The reasoning used to come to this conclusion just doesn't seem logical in the slightest.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 5:52:55   
Montrealien


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The account I called "a loser" and welcomed was banned, so I was not off by that much. Sorry for being a little politically incorrect for the gamer zone. I'll take the ban but still think it is wrong, and I will be reporting all the smallest insults I see in the gamer zone for the next 13  days, enjoy.




This is the "Fellow member" I insulted and greeted to the N4G community as a loser and cost me a 14 day ban and 2 bubble. I guess I can say it was worth it, lol. His comment deleted as spam, was reported by me also. Oh the irony. This member was with us for about 4 hours and is now gone forever....

1 day 9 hours ago Disagrees for everyone!

~ The Disagree Phantom View

1 day 9 hours ago Sorry but I must disagree with you all

~ The Disaree Phantom View

1 day 10 hours ago Hello Open Zone

I disagree with you all

~ The Disagree Phantom View

1 day 10 hours ago I disagree, you will not stick with sex.

~ The Disagree Phantom View

1 day 11 hours ago comment has been reported as SPAM - View

1 day 11 hours ago I disagree!

~ The Disagree Phantom View

1 day 11 hours ago I disagree! They're not coming to E3!

~ The Disagree Phantom View

1 day 12 hours ago I disagree!

~ The Disagree Phantom View

1 day 12 hours ago I disagree!

~ The Disagree Phantom View



quote:

For some reason it's ok though to say "welcome to N4G loser" or "It actually means that you are a complete idiot"? The reasoning used to come to this conclusion just doesn't seem logical in the slightest.



I would argue that  context should be a factor, but whatever, I sense that arguing with you is futile. I will keep on having my fun in the "open zone" you seem to enjoy to populate and take the ban and be back in 14 days and I'll try my best not to insult anybody, even if they seem to be the biggest losers/idiots in the world, everyone deserves a chance to be understood right?

< Message edited by Montrealien -- Jul.-15th-2008 6:09:20 >

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:07:47   
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IMO, The Disagree Phantom should be exterminated from the GZ. His antics have gone on for far too long.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:08:44   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Montrealien

The account I called "a loser" and welcomed was banned, so I was not off by that much. Sorry for being a little politically incorrect for the gamer zone. I'll take the ban but still think it is wrong, and I will be reporting all the smallest insults I see in the gamer zone for the next 13  days, enjoy.


Actually, I'm going to find out if I can get in touch with a few of the admins about this one, because it seems like Dis is trying to get out of saying that he didn't even consider anything else (how many people have called each other idiots from what have been posted on this site without even anything to show for it), and just went about banning people (idiot isn't tame? I would hate to find out about how sensitive YOU are, man).

But here's the thing. This guy even went so far as to say that if the guy was doing what he was doing, then to report him. Uhh, dude, the guy's post was THE ONE I WAS ****ING REPLYING TO!! If you really could not see THAT (which I thought was good for the open zone only, when did THAT ever ****ing change?) then I don't know what to tell you.

And it wasn't just a ban, it was a penalty of three bubbles. I've seen people who did worse that bitch on this forum about it get less bubbles taken away than I did. And Breakfast has been reported...COUNTLESS times.

God, maybe I WAS right from the get go? Mont, don't ****ing give THIS one up. I love N4G.com, but god damn it, this has me fired up right now.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:13:05   
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Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:18:53   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.


Don't worry, I will. Believe me, I've seen some of your past antics. Trust me, you're not the first person I'd trust as a moderator.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:21:42   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.



I wont even bother with it. However if you consider the Disagree phantom and all his other accounts as a "Member", then there is a problem there and does show  lack of judgment on your part, sorry....


I called him a loser,  and I will take even 5 more bubbles and a permanent ban to stand by my principals of calling him out. We tolerate too much crap on this site and I'll just keep on doing my thing, in the end I am on N4G's side and love the site, I know this, that is all that matters.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:24:48   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Montrealien

quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.



I wont even bother with it. However if you consider the Disagree phantom and all his other accounts as a "Member", then there is a problem there and does show  lack of judgment on your part, sorry....


I called him a loser,  and I will take even 5 more bubbles and a permanent ban to stand by my principals of calling him out. We tolerate too much crap on this site and I'll just keep on doing my thing, in the end I am on N4G's side and love the site, I know this, that is all that matters.


I can name some good reasons now why the crap will never be purged.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:26:44   
Diselage


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Montrealien

quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.



I wont even bother with it. However if you consider the Disagree phantom and all his other accounts as a "Member", then there is a problem there and does show  lack of judgment on your part, sorry....


I called him a loser,  and I will take even 5 more bubbles and a permanent ban to stand by my principals of calling him out. We tolerate too much crap on this site and I'll just keep on doing my thing, in the end I am on N4G's side and love the site, I know this, that is all that matters.


Call him out thats fine. Why do you feel the need to bad mouth them though there is never a reason for it.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:31:42   
darkpower


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

quote:

ORIGINAL: Montrealien

quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.



I wont even bother with it. However if you consider the Disagree phantom and all his other accounts as a "Member", then there is a problem there and does show  lack of judgment on your part, sorry....


I called him a loser,  and I will take even 5 more bubbles and a permanent ban to stand by my principals of calling him out. We tolerate too much crap on this site and I'll just keep on doing my thing, in the end I am on N4G's side and love the site, I know this, that is all that matters.


Call him out thats fine. Why do you feel the need to bad mouth them though there is never a reason for it.


What do you expect for him to DO, then, man? Some of these people continuously bitch and bitch and bitch if you ignore them, and then dare you to go further if you decide to call them out. Either way, you end up getting ****ed by them.

And again, no one exactly knows why the harsh bubble crack was necessary.

Maybe we should all start acting like the "idiots" that are populating the Gamer Zone. Oh, wait, we can't, because we don't think the 360 is the best system on the ****ing planet just yet.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:32:45   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

quote:

ORIGINAL: Montrealien

quote:

ORIGINAL: Diselage

Just because a post is not fit for the gamer zone it does not mean you need to pollute the gamer zone with even more open zone garbage. Remember it's suppose to be a safer zone meaning there is NEVER a reason to insult other members, it's pointless. Take this issue to whomever you please but read the code of conduct before you post next time.



I wont even bother with it. However if you consider the Disagree phantom and all his other accounts as a "Member", then there is a problem there and does show  lack of judgment on your part, sorry....


I called him a loser,  and I will take even 5 more bubbles and a permanent ban to stand by my principals of calling him out. We tolerate too much crap on this site and I'll just keep on doing my thing, in the end I am on N4G's side and love the site, I know this, that is all that matters.


Call him out thats fine. Why do you feel the need to bad mouth them though there is never a reason for it.



As a mod you should just stand your ground and not reply anymore. I said I would take the ban, the reasons why  I decided to bad mouth him are my own. I called that a slip/error/mistake, whatever you want to call it, it's this thing humans do....

I was hoping for a little understanding from the mods on this considering I am not a that bad of guy on this site, I was wrong.

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RE: Gamer Zone Ban Questions - Jul.-15th-2008 6:35:23   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: darkpower
What do you expect for him to DO, then, man? Some of these people continuously bitch and bitch and bitch if you ignore them, and then dare you to go further if you decide to call them out. Either way, you end up getting ****ed by them.

And again, no one exactly knows why the harsh bubble crack was necessary.

Maybe we should all start acting like the "idiots" that are populating the Gamer Zone. Oh, wait, we can't, because we don't think the 360 is the best system on the ****ing planet just yet.


I expect him to go through official channels to resolve the problems. Reporting, PMing a mod, and the like will have the member dealt with. For some reason he feels insulting them over the internet really shows them something and would teach them to not post in the GZ. On the other hand, and i'm sure other mods would agree, that doing this only leads to polluting the GZ with garbage that should not be there to begin with.

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