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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:27:13

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I wouldn't mind a maximum of 2 week delay on MGS4 if MGO sucks and needs to be fixed.

I'd rather have a good online mode than a bad one, and I'm certainly going to give feedback on stuff I don't like (from reading previews, this may include slow movement speeds, and too many shots to take down an enemy -- which is weird, because in MGS, generally it's very realistic in terms of shots to death).

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:32:35

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Well the only game I think that will get delayed is Killzone 2, all the other games are being developed by rather credible companies.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:34:09

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Well the only game I think that will get delayed is Killzone 2, all the other games are being developed by rather credible companies.

KZ2 can get delayed all it wants, as long as it doesn't fail when it comes out.

It's one of those games I'm not immediately anxious to play, so I'd willingly accept that it could be delayed if it helps the overall fun factor of the game. Especially since Guerilla isn't a proven company, like you said.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:35:12

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Well the only game I think that will get delayed is Killzone 2, all the other games are being developed by rather credible companies.

KZ2 can get delayed all it wants, as long as it doesn't fail when it comes out.

It's one of those games I'm not immediately anxious to play, so I'd willingly accept that it could be delayed if it helps the overall fun factor of the game. Especially since Guerilla isn't a proven company, like you said.

I agree. Especially when the first Killzone is nothing to brag home about. Even though it is underrated.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:36:59

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Killzone can go to the wii for all I care about it.

and MGS4 would be gladly delay for a month and extend the beta to max 30 days.

Konami is such ass and better get things together if it wants to stay on the gaming industry

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:39:27

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If Konami delays MGS4, I swear I'm throwing my PS3 out the window. You just simply cant do that to the millions around the world waiting to buy it. I'll choose the single player experience over online any day. I'd rather them freeze the servers on launch and fix the online at a later date and still get my single player fix.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:40:19

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MGS4 itself I am not worried for, but as far as MGO goes - the game could be great, fresh and different, but I sense a flurry of flaws unless the beta feedback is thoroughly taken into consideration.

Which is my hope. And thus, if this were to cause a minor delay - I would understand the necessity of it.

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I'd rather them freeze the servers on launch and fix the online at a later date and still get my single player fix.

This is another thing I was thinking about. But it's not only the servers that need a fix. The gameplay itself would need to be tweaked. A Japanese game developer trying to make the next big online stealth/shooter (a nearly nonexistent genre) could use some mega feedback.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:42:48

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I doubt that MGS4 will be delayed since it's pretty much done and the online aspect is pretty much completed. Now Konami just needs to fix those damn servers.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that Killzone 2 will be bundled with the PS4.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:47:57

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MGS4 itself I am not worried for, but as far as MGO goes - the game could be great, fresh and different, but I sense a flurry of flaws unless the beta feedback is thoroughly taken into consideration.

Which is my hope. And thus, if this were to cause a minor delay - I would understand the necessity of it.

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I'd rather them freeze the servers on launch and fix the online at a later date and still get my single player fix.

This is another thing I was thinking about. But it's not only the servers that need a fix. The gameplay itself would need to be tweaked. A Japanese game developer trying to make the next big online stealth/shooter (a nearly nonexistent genre) could use some mega feedback.

I agree with you 100% on that. But in a sense, the final copy of Metal Gear Solid 4 will only have a sample of MGO. It's not even a standalone product. In a way, we will soon be playing a beta of a beta. Which is why I think there's no emergence to delay the entire game for this small portion.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:48:40

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EDIT: After seeing the videos here: http://forums.n4g.com/MGO_Beta_Videos/m_116051/tm.htm I take back what I said about MGO based on previews I read. That stuff doesn't seem true, at least from the footage from the Japanese beta.

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I doubt that MGS4 will be delayed since it's pretty much done and the online aspect is pretty much completed. Now Konami just needs to fix those damn servers.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that Killzone 2 will be bundled with the PS4.

My hope is that the Beta feedback rectifies the clash with what we Westerners and Europeans want compared to the Japanese, so that the game is tweaked and ready before June 12th, so there is no delay, and the Online mode gets as good as it can be.

I'll shoot someone if many complaints about slow running speeds and long killing times are not taken into consideration. (This is going off of what I've read from some previews.)

Luckily these problems don't apply to MGS4 at all

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I agree with you 100% on that. But in a sense, the final copy of Metal Gear Solid 4 will only have a sample of MGO. It's not even a standalone product. In a way, we will soon be playing a beta of a beta. Which is why I think there's no emergence to delay the entire game for this small portion.

Since they've said all this stuff about DLC, if the game does fail hard, I hope they make some serious free patches for gameplay adjustments.

I just want the Online mode to succeed as much as it can. It'll be disappointing if it pales since it has a lot of potential, being in a basically new style of its own.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:50:35

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Here's a list of PS3 games I'd bet my ass will get delayed.

Little Big Planet- I say look for summer 2009 release

Killzone 2- Aint coming out this year. Nor the next, this will slip into development hell. All because Sony wants to "get it right"

Metal Gear Solid 4- More than likely to come out on it's release date. But with the MGO debacle, Konami might feel compelled to make customers wait a bit longer. Sony surely wouldnt disagree with Konami in making their fans wait

Final Fantasy XIII- I thought this was expected to be 2009. I dont remember Square saying it would be released this year. Either way, 2010 release

Home-Technically not a game, but I expect this project to be canned by it's expected fall release slot. It's not coming for PS3. It will be a PS4 feature guranteed

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Home-Technically not a game, but I expect this project to be canned by it's expected fall release slot. It's not coming for PS3. It will be a PS4 feature guranteed

You think???? Man Xbox Live is really good and I would love to see Sony take it on step further with Home.... This generation that way we can see MS do it next and so on...

I like the idea of Home but I really don't know what it will be like I have never played second life......

I hope it comes out.... you think with all the hub bub around it that it would be a major set back for Sony if it did not come out...

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:53:19

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Sony should never have talked about Home so long ago. Dumb idea, since they didn't even know what they were getting into.

I've almost completely forgotten about it. A cool idea that was announced prematurely and never spawned in time. Hopefully they don't miss this date, or else, it's pretty much overkill.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:55:36

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Nah. I was being halfway sarcastic. But I do think there is a chance that Home will see development hell and simply will be canned until PS4. But right now, Sony has invested so much time, and money into the project that it could be released this year. The fact of Sony making it playable to select PS3 owners lets us know that Home is up and running and working.

The only thing I'll give to Sony's credit about Home is that through each delay, we've seen some major upgrades to the application itself. If I remember, the graphics in Home now are way better than it was when first announced. So I expect with the fall release (assuming Sony follows up), you'll see some massive improvements with the product.

But then again, Phil Harrison left for a reason. I wonder if Home's state has anything to do with it.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:55:55

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Sony should never have talked about Home so long ago. Dumb idea, since they didn't even know what they were getting into.

I've almost completely forgotten about it. A cool idea that was announced prematurely and never spawned in time. Hopefully they don't miss this date, or else, it's pretty much overkill.

Sony always talks about things really early

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:58:45

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 16:59:09

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Sony should never have talked about Home so long ago. Dumb idea, since they didn't even know what they were getting into.

I've almost completely forgotten about it. A cool idea that was announced prematurely and never spawned in time. Hopefully they don't miss this date, or else, it's pretty much overkill.

I agree... I think Sony does this more than microsoft really... There are a few games out there that have been announced way way way to early.... or badly Bumped.....

killzone Haze and Little Big Planet just to name a few.... it does not bug me that it is for making the game better but take killzone... really they could have held that off till last E3 07 and not 05.... I think it would have been better....

Haze I was so iffy on before and now with all the delays I am worried if it will be good or not... I will rent it for sure but nothing more till I play it...

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 17:05:58

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come on man your exaggerating about Home for sure

they have a working build and the closed beta is running

im mightily pissed about the delay, but we will definitley see Home launch sometime in 2009- even if that means Christmas time

anyway, am I the only one in here who thinks KZ2 will make it this year?

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 17:08:49

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I agree... I think Sony does this more than microsoft really... There are a few games out there that have been announced way way way to early.... or badly Bumped.....

killzone Haze and Little Big Planet just to name a few.... it does not bug me that it is for making the game better but take killzone... really they could have held that off till last E3 07 and not 05.... I think it would have been better....

Haze I was so iffy on before and now with all the delays I am worried if it will be good or not... I will rent it for sure but nothing more till I play it...

I agree with everything you said here.

At the other guy, yeah, I think KZ2 can be released this year and can be good, but I'd rather see it delayed if it means a better game, since as good as it looks I can't just empty all my faith into Guerilla's hands as they have no ground of stable merits.

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 20:37:38

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as sad as it may be i do think so maybe not the big ones but the new IPs

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RE: Anyone think another PS3 game going to get delayed? - Apr.-22th-2008 22:30:57

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^Heh, I little overdone there I think.

I think Home will come before this year is over. They need the extra attention this Christmas. I believe the Sony marketing guy said Home for sure this year, as well as Killzone 2. It's not like they will 'never' release that game, considering the money/time spent. Come on. Even if it were to suck, they'd release it anyway as they need to recoup as much loss as possible. I don't think that will be a problem anyway.

Anyway, GT5 has already been said I believe, that it's coming out 'a year from now'

FF13 was always said it will come as early as the end of 2008....that of course means no chance in hell. 2009.

I think many other games will get dates pushed back, but not into next year. There is no way certain games aren't making it this year. Sony has to get some of this stuff out before this year is over if they want any chance in establishing the decade plus long empire. Everything was/is about 2008 making the turn around and 2009 sealing the deal. They can't just have MGS4 and GTA4 potential as the only factors this year.

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