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ORIGINAL: Icewake

Is it amazing how ever Sony fanboy bashes Gabe on his weight. Then say he doesn't matter. So if Insomniac lost Ted Price, no big deal huh? Course Gabe is a hell of a lot more talented than him, but just making a point you can understand.

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I bought every Valve game on PC.

They can come out and say the PS3 is a piece of crap and that they hate Sony and I would still think they're the greatest PC game makers out there.

Plus, I'm a big fan of Steam.

With all of that said: Everyone has to go buy TF2 on PC and then we can all play :)

same Steam gives you YEARS of fun for a very cheap price

well.... cheap for me because of the weak ass $

seriously, I can buy every game Valve ever made for just £50, which is just daylight robbery on my part

My sentiments exactly. Plus, being Canadian, I don't pay taxes, and the games are priced so low it's a sin not to buy them.

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meh ignorant fanboys

I dont care how much fatboy bashes the PS3

they made counterstrike, and that fact will always remain deep in my heart

oh yeah and HL2, Portal yadda yadda

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I bought every Valve game on PC.

They can come out and say the PS3 is a piece of crap and that they hate Sony and I would still think they're the greatest PC game makers out there.

Plus, I'm a big fan of Steam.

With all of that said: Everyone has to go buy TF2 on PC and then we can all play :)

same Steam gives you YEARS of fun for a very cheap price

well.... cheap for me because of the weak ass $

seriously, I can buy every game Valve ever made for just £50, which is just daylight robbery on my part

My sentiments exactly. Plus, being Canadian, I don't pay taxes, and the games are priced so low it's a sin not to buy them.

Glad you don't pay taxes because the rest of us Canadians sure do. Cars that are made in Canada that are shipped to the States sell for less there. Even little things like books cost up to $10 more per book here even when our dollar was stronger. Also betting you don't drive because we are getting ripped of on gas too.

The Americans think they are in a recession. Here we just call it being Canadian.

BTW, not ranting at you Pirate in any way. You were probably joking about the not paying tax thing. I'm just pissed at how much tax I pay and the government wastes it. Only Mulroney can get away with not paying taxes (along with polititians yet to be discovered doing the same thing).

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meh ignorant fanboys

I dont care how much fatboy bashes the PS3

they made counterstrike, and that fact will always remain deep in my heart

oh yeah and HL2, Portal yadda yadda

Lets get something straight here. Vavle DID NOT make Counterstrike. Counterstrike was a mod created by a handfull of fans. Later on Vavle hired these guys and bought the IP. The same goes for other Vavle games like Day of Defeat. As for the PS3 hate, it makes perfect sense since Vavle is a PC developer at heart so its easier for them gravitate toward the 360.

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ORIGINAL: Icewake

Is it amazing how ever Sony fanboy bashes Gabe on his weight. Then say he doesn't matter. So if Insomniac lost Ted Price, no big deal huh? Course Gabe is a hell of a lot more talented than him, but just making a point you can understand.

If vavle never made a game for the PS3 i wouldn't lose sleep over it. Valve refusing to take on ps3 is simply personal preference, as far as i am concerned the devs are simply lazy and that is cool nothing against them. Gabe newell is about as talented as my armpit.

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For me, Valve's ONLY saving grace is CounterStrike.

CounterStrike birthed a whole genre of knock-off and rip-off military / tactical / special forces / anti-terrorist shooters.

I really like CounterStrike Source, but that's pretty much it.

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why are Valve lazy? and why is Gabe talentless? lets hear it.

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why are Valve lazy? and why is Gabe talentless? lets hear it.

Simple. If they won't work on PS3 its because they are lazy. They said it themselves they aren't ps3 developers. They don't want to go through the heartache of working on the PS3 that simple. I have nothing against that but some game developers like to get their games in the hands of as many people as possible when they can, other don't. Long story short its either they hate the ps3 or they are lazy. Carmack has openly bagged on ps3 but that didn't stop id from making their new engine for ps3. Why because they aren't lazy.

Tell me one thing that gave newell has done that screams talent. Just one thing and i will retract my statement.

Like i said if they don't make any PS3 games it has zero effect on me but doesn't change the fact that their view on ps3 development is lazy and i still don't see gabe newels talents

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Yes. Any developer that doesn't want to develop for a platform they are not familiar with is lazy. That is my logic and i am sticking to it. If they didn't develop because they were paid or straight up hate the platform then that is a different story but if they simply don't want to go through the stress of developing for the ps3, then they are lazy. I can understand that they want to keep games on PC that is cool. They don't NEED to develop games for the PS3 that is the point. I respect that and i am cool with it. But not developing for a platform because it is hard is lazy. That is my point and that is exactly what valve is doing.

I have absolutely nothing against valve and if you like their games good for you. The only valve game i ever played was half life and that was when i hated FPS games so i simply don't appreciate it as much as others might. No where have i heard that Game Newel singlehandedly spawned half life or steam. Besides half life they haven't had one great game and Half life was over a decade ago. That hardly makes gabe newel full of talent.

Like i said gabe newel has as much talent as my armpit. His company has done great things for the gaming community and i can respect that but i simply cannot pinpoint his individual contributions to the gaming community. For the record i have a pretty talented armpit.

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ORIGINAL: kwicksandz

How about this

Are Square enix lazy because there is no wii and 360 version of FF13. How about Insomniac and no PC uncharted port

.....Or have they decided on a platform they like and are sticking to it?

Valve make AAA+ PC games, its just what they do.There is no need for them to make watered down console ports IMO. Refusing to make games on your prefered platform doesnt make them lazy or bad devs, it just they way their design decisions panned out.

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I should be in the Xbox 360 Games Section, but even I dislike Valve...just because I'm not a fan of their games?

lol just thought I'd contribute.