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ORIGINAL: sonarus

sigh. Valve is over rated and lazy and gabe newel lacks talent. TF2 visually isn't pixar but for the sake of argument, lets say it is, i haven't played it personally so i don't want to judge the game but considering the gaming community ins't chatty about it, i have to guess the game is B+ at best.

Bottom line is valve is lazy, they are too lazy to learn ps3 architecture, and they are too lazy to handle a 360 port of left for dead, despite the fact that pc and 360 architecture are supposedly so similar

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ORIGINAL: Odion

its taken Blizzard 10 years to make starcraft 2

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Also you do realize that it will be 10 years as of November of this year, and they've actually released roughly every 2-4 years.

Also The Source engine can't go toe to toe with ID's new enginge of Unreal 3 because those are brand new tech, but it still used today for next gen games, and it still works.

Half-Life 1

On its release, critics hailed its overall presentation and numerous scripted sequences, and it won over 50 Game of the Year awards.

Its gameplay influenced first-person shooters for years to come, and it has since been regarded as one of the greatest games of all time

Half-Life has sold eight million copies

Half-Life is the most played online computer game (excluding MMORPGs)

Half-Life 2

The game garnered near unanimous positive reviews and received critical acclaim,

winning over 35 Game of the Year awards for 2004.

The game uses the Source game engine, which includes a heavily modified version of the Havok physics engine.[12] Half-Life 2 has been critically acclaimed for advances in computer animation, sound, narration, computer graphics, artificial intelligence (AI) and physics. As of June 8, 2006, over four million copies of Half-Life 2 have been sold.[13] Exact numbers for digital delivery service Steam and retail have not been revealed, but in general, the former accounts for 25% of Valve’s business and is significantly more profitable per unit.

Maximum PC awarded Half-Life 2 an unprecedented 11 on their rating scale which peaks at 10, and named it the "best game ever made."

Team fortress 2

Team Fortress 2 received critical acclaim after release, with an overall score of 93% on both Metacritic and Game Rankings.[50][51] Many reviewers praised the cartoon graphics approach and the resulting light-hearted gameplay,[8] and the use of distinct personalities and appearances for the classes impressed a number of critics, with PC Gamer UK stating that "until now multiplayer games just haven't had it

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its no use arguing with Sonarus Odion. give up. he is a pure hater. he know's nothing about TF:2 yet trashes it. we have provided gobs and gobs of proven facts...the only rebutal is "they buy others ideas". what company doesnt find talent and gives them a job...nutures and provides ideas, an engine to use..etc?? and by his logic every company that doesnt release a game on every platform known to mankind is lazy. we provide proof...he provides opinions. hell i just opened Steam and first thing up was "Orange Box....100 awards and counting!" its about as sad as watching a person with no arms trying to clap.

TF:2 was redesigned over and over again in its development process. finally designing a new engine specific to the game. but you know...thats lazy too.

just an example... http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3165432 6 outta 9 games were Valve games. you piece of crap Valve. you and your horrible games.

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ORIGINAL: sonarus

Lol. Until given proof, i cannot believe steam was valve's idea, talkless of "the fatman". As far as i know they bought the idea from someone else. I am not a pc gamer anymore. So i guess that migh be why i don't appreciate them too much but in my eyes they have one special game which is half life. Maybe i'll rent the orange box on 360 since ps3 port is smeared with vaseline lol

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ORIGINAL: sonarus

Sigh. OK OK OK. Gabe Newel belongs in the Guiness book of world records for his magical powers that come from...the source

Valve are a bunch of hardworking MF'ers who work hard at finding people to pay to make games for them.

Is that satisfactory enough? I am tired of this argument we have completely deviated off topic. I apologize to gabe newel if that really is him a couple of posts up (hope not though). I honestly am not a hater, i just like to step on toes and apparently you guys aren't letting me step on his. Valve is alright in my book and i don't hate them for not making ps3 games because like i said, their games aren't of that much interest to me. I wish them the best of luck in thier left 4 dead endevours. Valve FTMFW!!!