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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 1:54:35

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aha i never saw it that way thanks, im always thinking its tec issues since devs keep complaining they cant run unreal engine 3

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 2:06:34

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I am not arguing that point, I am arguing the fact that GG was thrown a zillion dollars, and made great tech does not mean that they are any better then they were with ANY of their other games.

Crysis is the best looking game ever, but it was prob only the 5th best shooter of last year

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 2:54:14

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Their last game KZ liberation was a B+ game. I can definitely understand reservations on this game but considering the hype and the game's importance to sony, i seriously doubt sony will just let this one flop. GG aren't the best devs but with their KZ2 engine, they definitely know their tech. Gameplay is what matters now and with 9 months of play testing and lots of feed back, they should get it working.

You are sounding like KZ2 being a hit is a long shot. I can understand if you feel that way but you have to give GG some credit. This is by far their biggest and most ambitious game and they have the full backing of sony. I think they will get it right. It may not be the best shooter of all time but it should be able to hold its head high among the greats

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 3:38:59

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There are plenty of devs that made basic work at first, then rise from the ashes.

Assumptions about any certain dev never being able to rise from such (or them being golden because of their past 'cred') is completely daft.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 3:45:51

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KZ had the same preassure, and backing as KZ2, maybe not the same amount of money, but regardless GG has made 3 games, and none of them are worth remembering, and their PsP title doesn't count towards this, handheld is a whole different world.

I would be surprised if KZ2 ended up being great, 0/3 for making an amazing game pretty much says that they aren't a studio to put your money on. So far even IGN and others have said, ya it looks great, but it does nothing new, and nothing better then the other shooters. It'll be a Second Teir shooter, right beside Crysis

Also Mr Tretton name a studio that didn't show real talent and skill in their first games, and then BLEW up.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 3:54:29

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Also Mr Tretton name a studio that didn't show real talent and skill in their first games, and then BLEW up.

many, kid. And nonetheless, as I said, the assumptions are still stupid. You honestly think Sony would throw this much time and money on a game that is going nowhere? No. And that is an assumption that has an educated guess behind it. Stupid assumptions are the ones that say "This made 'this', so it can NEVER make 'this'." Don't be a baboon.
second, all those reviewers have played are demos...as well as part of their jobs is to be critical as such for the purpose of the game being worked on even harder to appease. No demo of a game several months out is given a '10' review, including GTA4.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 3:55:10

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i think going to get delayed some more cause way next year game releases look the getaway 3 god of war 3 come out in feb to april them selfs

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 4:01:35

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i think going to get delayed some more cause way next year game releases look the getaway 3 god of war 3 come out in feb to april them selfs

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oooookay.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 5:02:24

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KZ 2's heaverly in deleopment, the big G wan't to take full advantage of both Cell and BR, BK3's still up for Xmas, Fsble 2's september/october, A.W info very soon.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 7:02:29

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The window for KZ2 is 2008, I don't care when, but it gotta hit the streets in 2008. If it slide to 2009 then it's in danger of sharing Haze's fate. Having seen the latest vid which curiously enough is still branded as being prealpha the game is looking great. Not OMFG amazing great, but just as good as MGS4 great.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 9:24:12

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The window for KZ2 is 2008, I don't care when, but it gotta hit the streets in 2008. If it slide to 2009 then it's in danger of sharing Haze's fate. Having seen the latest vid which curiously enough is still branded as being prealpha the game is looking great. Not OMFG amazing great, but just as good as MGS4 great.

Well everyone has their own view but seriously, KZ2 is the best looking shooter on any console by FAR. KZ2 isn't in danger of anything. The reason haze suffered its fate is because it just didn't look that good in the first place. A game like KZ2 you will wait for until you can see another game look better than it. As long as it remains best looking game on consoles everyones eyes will be on it.

@Odion, you are going to be surprised at how good KZ2 does. The media is just being hard on them because that is what they do but if you read impressions from other people you will recognize that with 9 months, they could do a lot more than what they have here and make the game a beast. The game could go south offcourse but this is honestly their best chance they have to make a game. KZ1 was limited by the PS3 hardware so not much they could do, on the other hand they have put in a lot of time and money into this. Like i said this is their best chance to make it happen and i think they will

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 10:21:21

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I think the prime reason for this next delay (bringing total release date delay time to exactly 1 year) is that they had a complete art change. It's not as dull looking as it has been in previous incarnations. They've re-saturised the game as compared to what was seen back at E3.

Another reason for the delay is probably us the gamers and the game press. They've been bitching about this and that in Killzone being this and that and not what people wanted or that they wanted this or that. So basically, people are getting the game they wanted via combined complaints. They're bending over for people who want to play it and there best not be whining about it in the end.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 10:35:41

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i believe got more exclusive games then they management when they had PS2 exclusives game they manage the release dates and games came out on time and at the right time

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 10:47:12

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They did wanna bug out the bugs i gues :D

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 12:52:22

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have you played Killzone 1???

Its terrible not just from a tech standpoint, but the fact that it was HORRIBLY linear, the AI on both your enemy and allies were completely stupid. I played that game start to finish.

Mr Tretton don't call me a kid, saying many doesn't prove your point at all, give me a name, and of course you look at a studios past work to see how good their next game is going to be. This isn't a sports team where the team changes after the season.

Over the last what now 8 years, GG has not once made an amazing game, and so far except for the amazing tech in KZ2 none of the gameplay looks to be doing anything new.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 13:01:43

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because SONY knows Insomiac knows what they are doing unlike most devs. so in other words KZ2 is no worthy of a challenge for RFOM2

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 13:07:25

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Someone's going to bust me again for copy and paste,so i'll remove it.

But the message has been sent to all the haters.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 13:11:14

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what is that supose to mean?

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 13:30:07

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guerilla is a medicore developer? not seemingly, since they are one of the first 7 developers to make cgi ingame visuals, including:

Nauty dog with Drakes Fortune

Insomniac with Ratchet and Clank

Square Enix with FF13 and Versus

whoever made Heavy Rain

Sony themselves with GT5 prologue and GT5

so they are very impressive in visuals, let them have a chance with a machine that can accomplish their true dream bud.

why are you naming games that havent come out yet. You dont know what the finished product will look like or when it will come out since sony games tend to get delayed.

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RE: Does anyone kno why Killzone 2 was delayed again? - May-9th-2008 14:37:39

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Its terrible not just from a tech standpoint, but the fact that it was HORRIBLY linear, the AI on both your enemy and allies were completely stupid. I played that game start to finish.

Over the last what now 8 years, GG has not once made an amazing game, and so far except for the amazing tech in KZ2 none of the gameplay looks to be doing anything new.

GG, during KZ1, was a very small, independant studio on a budget. KZ1 was nothing more than a demo of sorts published by Sony. It was after the fact later that Sony signed GG and has been expanding their resources ever since. Including money/time/employees. They were digging with shovels on KZ1. Now it's a bulldozer.

You have to be daft to not consider that they could be bringing in lots of new talent into the team over the making of this game, and of course as mentioned, the luxury of money and time. You are one of many out there that look at things in black and white and just connect the dots between KZ1 and 2, in which both games are this point, have been made by mostly a team of different people, with different resources. (and platform for chrissakes)

Let KZ2 come out to be what it's gonna be and stop yapping about the past.

This is opposite yet similar, like all the baffoons saying Haze is a 'day 1 purchase for me', because Free Radical made some game they liked years ago.

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