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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 12:21:01

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Totally overrated successor to an almost legendary series.
My score is 6 out of 10 (being generous).

PS: frame rate doesn't even reach 30(15-25 fps)
Driving is frustratingly bad and unrealistic, which makes it very hard to enjoy police chases or even try to overrun them.
Niko's controls are sluggish.
Freedom(hallmark of the series) is limited.
Collision detection is missed up
Rudimentary cover system.
Jaggies everywhere(migraine inducing).
Shallow repetitive missions.
defective hand to hand combat mechanics.

This game is truly THE MOST OVERRATED GAME IN GAMING HISTORY.

How reviewers gave this game perfect scores is truly beyond my mind....CORRUPTION.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 13:18:37

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The cops are easy I dont know what you talking about cops being hard. anyways the rest of the things you said I agree with. I regret letting the hype get in to me.

if you haven't get the game PLZ...... RENT THE GAME DONT BUY IT. you will do your self a favor

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 13:27:26

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I REALLY hate getting run over all the time. Old GTA cars used to stop but these don't. They go at 1 MPH, hit niko, then niko goes flying!! What was that?! It's going at 1 PMH... 2 tops! Niko can run faster that that! I don't see cars getting knocked when I run into them!

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 13:29:53

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yea I guess that euphoria(what ever is spell) engine is not the best engine for GTA games

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 14:47:16

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The engine is fine, light and effective. They just needed to tweak it a bit.

Oh and i forgot one last thing. I HATE THE DRIVING, as realistic as it is now, i dread it to death. Reason for that being: Ok so im rolling around at average speed, and then heck i decide to hand break into a turn, my car pulls this 180 turn, and takes an hour before the wheels can start turning and stabalizing so that i can properly drive. and you know what really useless? the camera does this cool 90 degree angle shift when your drifting so you can see whats in front of you while your drifting, but too bad that doesnt help jack because I cant stay in the moment for more than 2 seconds because I either overturn into that stupid over exagerated 180 degree angle the next milisecond and the camera just does whatever, or my drift just ends way to early and the camera just does whatever again...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!

Oh and another thing i cannot stand about diving is. THE FREAKIN CAMERA ANGLE...its horrible, this by far is i think my worst complaint for the game, its like hovering so low that i need to constantly have my finger on the right stick adjusting it to be a bit higher because i cant see 1 thing in front of me, who the hell tested out this BS angle and said it was the most optimal should have an eye examine or MRI scan as they have a flawed sense of stable vision.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 20:08:53

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I wouldn't change much in GTA IV. For every one thing R* took out they added 10. I can't believe the hate GTA has been getting from some people here.

Factor 5 puts out a bowel movement of a game like Lair and takes less heat. NfS Prostreet was terrible and didn't get shat on like this. The last F.E.A.R. tanked and there are several other games that fit this catagory. For every GTA hater, there are thousand who love the game.

To the poster above me, change the camera angle when driving, you have like 4-5 views. Perfect example of invaled complaints about the game. No offense intended.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 23:39:09

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ORIGINAL: EL SALVADOR

I wouldn't change much in GTA IV. For every one thing R* took out they added 10. I can't believe the hate GTA has been getting from some people here.

Factor 5 puts out a bowel movement of a game like Lair and takes less heat. NfS Prostreet was terrible and didn't get shat on like this. The last F.E.A.R. tanked and there are several other games that fit this catagory. For every GTA hater, there are thousand who love the game.

To the poster above me, change the camera angle when driving, you have like 4-5 views. Perfect example of invaled complaints about the game. No offense intended.

First of all... most of the time, i dont want to play and drive using a cinematic view, ok then what else do we have left. Oh yah, I also dont want to drive with the in-car camera view, not practical doing most missions, what eles is there? Oh yah, the camera angles i think your talking about. Ok well hmm lets see, THEYRE ALL THE SAME BUT the angle probably changes by 1 or 2 degrees when doing this, all is does is it zooms further behind my car. That does not solve my issue of not being able to see in front of myself, except for the one that zooms out the furthest, but heck if I wanted to watch a few pixels on a screen i'd go play mario cart on the NES. I actually want to see my car, not some hotwheels racer Im controlling in game, I want to see the damage modeling and such. And im sorry, but i dont have one of the LG 106 inch plasma flat screens to let me zoom out so much without having that issue, I got a normal 46 inch Panasonic plasma, and its irritating.

So then you might say, well zoom it in then if you want to see the car. Well when i do that, it becomes unplayable, because i see too much of the car and nothing on around the sides, so turning while in that view is completly a guessing game, just hope you dont hit anything before you re-accelerate and the camera adjusts back behind you. So all im left is using the balanced view, where I can see the car, and the sides well enough, but that still leaves me with not seeing what is in front of me. So I guess i just have to keep the right stick pushed up slightly when driving.

PLZ EXCUSE MY HORRENDOUS TYPOS

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-10th-2008 23:58:27

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ORIGINAL: EL SALVADOR

I wouldn't change much in GTA IV. For every one thing R* took out they added 10. I can't believe the hate GTA has been getting from some people here.

Factor 5 puts out a bowel movement of a game like Lair and takes less heat. NfS Prostreet was terrible and didn't get shat on like this. The last F.E.A.R. tanked and there are several other games that fit this catagory. For every GTA hater, there are thousand who love the game.

To the poster above me, change the camera angle when driving, you have like 4-5 views. Perfect example of invaled complaints about the game. No offense intended.

First of all... most of the time, i dont want to play and drive using a cinematic view, ok then what else do we have left. Oh yah, I also dont want to drive with the in-car camera view, not practical doing most missions, what eles is there? Oh yah, the camera angles i think your talking about. Ok well hmm lets see, THEYRE ALL THE SAME BUT the angle probably changes by 1 or 2 degrees when doing this, all is does is it zooms further behind my car. That does not solve my issue of not being able to see in front of myself, except for the one that zooms out the furthest, but heck if I wanted to watch a few pixels on a screen i'd go play mario cart on the NES. I actually want to see my car, not some hotwheels racer Im controlling in game, I want to see the damage modeling and such. And im sorry, but i dont have one of the LG 106 inch plasma flat screens to let me zoom out so much without having that issue, I got a normal 46 inch Panasonic plasma, and its irritating.

So then you might say, well zoom it in then if you want to see the car. Well when i do that, it becomes unplayable, because i see too much of the car and nothing on around the sides, so turning while in that view is completly a guessing game, just hope you dont hit anything before you re-accelerate and the camera adjusts back behind you. So all im left is using the balanced view, where I can see the car, and the sides well enough, but that still leaves me with not seeing what is in front of me. So I guess i just have to keep the right stick pushed up slightly when driving.

PLZ EXCUSE MY HORRENDOUS TYPOS

That still leaves the fact that this game has more camera angles than some actual racing games. I have a 42" LCD and I can see just fine. I use the closest view and no problems. I also like the way the cars handle. They don't feel glued down. I think in general the "in" thing to do now on internet sites is trash GTA IV.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-11th-2008 16:11:37

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The cops are super easy but their AI is crap.

Example: Some guy started shooting at me (guess I pushed him by walking past him

), a cop was driving by all nice and slowly doing nothing about it...I fight/shoot back, and the cop finally springs into action and starts firing at me and trying to arrest me, completely ignoring the shooter...nice, two stars for defending myself.

Every GTA has been like that so far...San Andreas was the worst, with all the gangs and stuff.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-11th-2008 16:59:42

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I like the view after the one that's REALLY close to the top of the car. It looks like it's a little to the left. And so far I haven't heard of any permanent cheats that mess up the game.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 19:33:10

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EL SALVADOR

quote:

ORIGINAL: The_Kills

quote:

ORIGINAL: EL SALVADOR

I wouldn't change much in GTA IV. For every one thing R* took out they added 10. I can't believe the hate GTA has been getting from some people here.

Factor 5 puts out a bowel movement of a game like Lair and takes less heat. NfS Prostreet was terrible and didn't get shat on like this. The last F.E.A.R. tanked and there are several other games that fit this catagory. For every GTA hater, there are thousand who love the game.

To the poster above me, change the camera angle when driving, you have like 4-5 views. Perfect example of invaled complaints about the game. No offense intended.

First of all... most of the time, i dont want to play and drive using a cinematic view, ok then what else do we have left. Oh yah, I also dont want to drive with the in-car camera view, not practical doing most missions, what eles is there? Oh yah, the camera angles i think your talking about. Ok well hmm lets see, THEYRE ALL THE SAME BUT the angle probably changes by 1 or 2 degrees when doing this, all is does is it zooms further behind my car. That does not solve my issue of not being able to see in front of myself, except for the one that zooms out the furthest, but heck if I wanted to watch a few pixels on a screen i'd go play mario cart on the NES. I actually want to see my car, not some hotwheels racer Im controlling in game, I want to see the damage modeling and such. And im sorry, but i dont have one of the LG 106 inch plasma flat screens to let me zoom out so much without having that issue, I got a normal 46 inch Panasonic plasma, and its irritating.

So then you might say, well zoom it in then if you want to see the car. Well when i do that, it becomes unplayable, because i see too much of the car and nothing on around the sides, so turning while in that view is completly a guessing game, just hope you dont hit anything before you re-accelerate and the camera adjusts back behind you. So all im left is using the balanced view, where I can see the car, and the sides well enough, but that still leaves me with not seeing what is in front of me. So I guess i just have to keep the right stick pushed up slightly when driving.

PLZ EXCUSE MY HORRENDOUS TYPOS

That still leaves the fact that this game has more camera angles than some actual racing games. I have a 42" LCD and I can see just fine. I use the closest view and no problems. I also like the way the cars handle. They don't feel glued down. I think in general the "in" thing to do now on internet sites is trash GTA IV.

they felt glued down in the others? no way, this one feels more glued down in terms of the car flipping over. What i think is, the cars are heavier, but thier tires are made of ice or something...too slippery, like they were made of ice, especially when turning.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 20:54:01

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Well I love the game and it sure as hell is worth the $60 i payed for it. IMO R* did a good job.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 21:17:27

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ORIGINAL: The_Kills

quote:

ORIGINAL: EL SALVADOR

quote:

ORIGINAL: The_Kills

quote:

ORIGINAL: EL SALVADOR

I wouldn't change much in GTA IV. For every one thing R* took out they added 10. I can't believe the hate GTA has been getting from some people here.

Factor 5 puts out a bowel movement of a game like Lair and takes less heat. NfS Prostreet was terrible and didn't get shat on like this. The last F.E.A.R. tanked and there are several other games that fit this catagory. For every GTA hater, there are thousand who love the game.

To the poster above me, change the camera angle when driving, you have like 4-5 views. Perfect example of invaled complaints about the game. No offense intended.

First of all... most of the time, i dont want to play and drive using a cinematic view, ok then what else do we have left. Oh yah, I also dont want to drive with the in-car camera view, not practical doing most missions, what eles is there? Oh yah, the camera angles i think your talking about. Ok well hmm lets see, THEYRE ALL THE SAME BUT the angle probably changes by 1 or 2 degrees when doing this, all is does is it zooms further behind my car. That does not solve my issue of not being able to see in front of myself, except for the one that zooms out the furthest, but heck if I wanted to watch a few pixels on a screen i'd go play mario cart on the NES. I actually want to see my car, not some hotwheels racer Im controlling in game, I want to see the damage modeling and such. And im sorry, but i dont have one of the LG 106 inch plasma flat screens to let me zoom out so much without having that issue, I got a normal 46 inch Panasonic plasma, and its irritating.

So then you might say, well zoom it in then if you want to see the car. Well when i do that, it becomes unplayable, because i see too much of the car and nothing on around the sides, so turning while in that view is completly a guessing game, just hope you dont hit anything before you re-accelerate and the camera adjusts back behind you. So all im left is using the balanced view, where I can see the car, and the sides well enough, but that still leaves me with not seeing what is in front of me. So I guess i just have to keep the right stick pushed up slightly when driving.

PLZ EXCUSE MY HORRENDOUS TYPOS

That still leaves the fact that this game has more camera angles than some actual racing games. I have a 42" LCD and I can see just fine. I use the closest view and no problems. I also like the way the cars handle. They don't feel glued down. I think in general the "in" thing to do now on internet sites is trash GTA IV.

they felt glued down in the others? no way, this one feels more glued down in terms of the car flipping over. What i think is, the cars are heavier, but thier tires are made of ice or something...too slippery, like they were made of ice, especially when turning.

I never said in the others.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 21:28:09

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Before we begin, I completed Vice City 100%, completed San Andreas 90-95%, and I played all the missions in GTA 3, they were the best games ever to me, but GTAIV was an epic disapointment

I hate how niko walks so slowly, how I have to hold another button to make him run

So you must be so clinically obese that it strains you to push another button. Lazy ass...

I hate how the framerate is only 30fps

You wouoldnt have even noticed if they didnt tell you. The framerate is SOLID. It doesnt drop at all. Thats a huge achievement for such a game.

I hate how there are no tanks

Tanks are not realistic. The army wont send a tank on one man. Thats why they are gone.

I hate how there are no airplanes

Planes are not needed to transverse across one city. That why they were only in san andreas which is a state and is the reason why they are not in GTA IV.

I hate how strong cops are

Boo hoo. Practice MOAR and become a better gamer. Then they wont be hard. Beause in real life the cops are strong.

I hate how long it takes for cars on fire to explode

Slightly reasonable but 7 seconds was not enough time to escale a falming car in san andreas. Im glad they did this.

I hate how easy it is to get pushed on the ground

He is a human. He can gat pushed to the ground. Plus I hardly ever fall over unless in drunk in the game.

I ESPECIALY HATE HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO ENTER A CHEAT CODE-I know it saves on the phone, but its not very easy to use it like that when under fire

FAIL. You had to push a 16 button combination in san andreas and now you only have to push the buttons ONCE then you can use them in your cell phone Once again your lazy.

I hate how we cant go underwater

What was the point of that in san andreas? To see a bunch of blue void? Its a waste of disc space.

8.4/10 is my rating for this game

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 21:31:08

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ORIGINAL: Slayer OP

quote:

ORIGINAL: Archaeox

Before we begin, I completed Vice City 100%, completed San Andreas 90-95%, and I played all the missions in GTA 3, they were the best games ever to me, but GTAIV was an epic disapointment

I hate how niko walks so slowly, how I have to hold another button to make him run

So you must be so clinically obese that it strains you to push another button. Lazy ass...

I hate how the framerate is only 30fps

You wouoldnt have even noticed if they didnt tell you. The framerate is SOLID. It doesnt drop at all. Thats a huge achievement for such a game.

I hate how there are no tanks

Tanks are not realistic. The army wont send a tank on one man. Thats why they are gone.

I hate how there are no airplanes

Planes are not needed to transverse across one city. That why they were only in san andreas which is a state and is the reason why they are not in GTA IV.

I hate how strong cops are

Boo hoo. Practice MOAR and become a better gamer. Then they wont be hard. Beause in real life the cops are strong.

I hate how long it takes for cars on fire to explode

Slightly reasonable but 7 seconds was not enough time to escale a falming car in san andreas. Im glad they did this.

I hate how easy it is to get pushed on the ground

He is a human. He can gat pushed to the ground. Plus I hardly ever fall over unless in drunk in the game.

I ESPECIALY HATE HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO ENTER A CHEAT CODE-I know it saves on the phone, but its not very easy to use it like that when under fire

FAIL. You had to push a 16 button combination in san andreas and now you only have to push the buttons ONCE then you can use them in your cell phone Once again your lazy.

I hate how we cant go underwater

What was the point of that in san andreas? To see a bunch of blue void? Its a waste of disc space.

8.4/10 is my rating for this game

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i think there were fish underwater in san andreas

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 21:37:31

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ORIGINAL: ChefDejon

quote:

ORIGINAL: Slayer OP

quote:

ORIGINAL: Archaeox

Before we begin, I completed Vice City 100%, completed San Andreas 90-95%, and I played all the missions in GTA 3, they were the best games ever to me, but GTAIV was an epic disapointment

I hate how niko walks so slowly, how I have to hold another button to make him run

So you must be so clinically obese that it strains you to push another button. Lazy ass...

I hate how the framerate is only 30fps

You wouoldnt have even noticed if they didnt tell you. The framerate is SOLID. It doesnt drop at all. Thats a huge achievement for such a game.

I hate how there are no tanks

Tanks are not realistic. The army wont send a tank on one man. Thats why they are gone.

I hate how there are no airplanes

Planes are not needed to transverse across one city. That why they were only in san andreas which is a state and is the reason why they are not in GTA IV.

I hate how strong cops are

Boo hoo. Practice MOAR and become a better gamer. Then they wont be hard. Beause in real life the cops are strong.

I hate how long it takes for cars on fire to explode

Slightly reasonable but 7 seconds was not enough time to escale a falming car in san andreas. Im glad they did this.

I hate how easy it is to get pushed on the ground

He is a human. He can gat pushed to the ground. Plus I hardly ever fall over unless in drunk in the game.

I ESPECIALY HATE HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO ENTER A CHEAT CODE-I know it saves on the phone, but its not very easy to use it like that when under fire

FAIL. You had to push a 16 button combination in san andreas and now you only have to push the buttons ONCE then you can use them in your cell phone Once again your lazy.

I hate how we cant go underwater

What was the point of that in san andreas? To see a bunch of blue void? Its a waste of disc space.

8.4/10 is my rating for this game

????

i think there were fish underwater in san andreas

You couldnt do anything with them. They wasted at least half the dic space just making that blue void.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 21:48:13

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ORIGINAL: Slayer OP

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ORIGINAL: ChefDejon

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ORIGINAL: Slayer OP

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ORIGINAL: Archaeox

Before we begin, I completed Vice City 100%, completed San Andreas 90-95%, and I played all the missions in GTA 3, they were the best games ever to me, but GTAIV was an epic disapointment

I hate how niko walks so slowly, how I have to hold another button to make him run

So you must be so clinically obese that it strains you to push another button. Lazy ass...

I hate how the framerate is only 30fps

You wouoldnt have even noticed if they didnt tell you. The framerate is SOLID. It doesnt drop at all. Thats a huge achievement for such a game.

I hate how there are no tanks

Tanks are not realistic. The army wont send a tank on one man. Thats why they are gone.

I hate how there are no airplanes

Planes are not needed to transverse across one city. That why they were only in san andreas which is a state and is the reason why they are not in GTA IV.

I hate how strong cops are

Boo hoo. Practice MOAR and become a better gamer. Then they wont be hard. Beause in real life the cops are strong.

I hate how long it takes for cars on fire to explode

Slightly reasonable but 7 seconds was not enough time to escale a falming car in san andreas. Im glad they did this.

I hate how easy it is to get pushed on the ground

He is a human. He can gat pushed to the ground. Plus I hardly ever fall over unless in drunk in the game.

I ESPECIALY HATE HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO ENTER A CHEAT CODE-I know it saves on the phone, but its not very easy to use it like that when under fire

FAIL. You had to push a 16 button combination in san andreas and now you only have to push the buttons ONCE then you can use them in your cell phone Once again your lazy.

I hate how we cant go underwater

What was the point of that in san andreas? To see a bunch of blue void? Its a waste of disc space.

8.4/10 is my rating for this game

????

i think there were fish underwater in san andreas

You couldnt do anything with them. They wasted at least half the dic space just making that blue void.

yeah but in general San Andreas is just the overall better gta

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-12th-2008 21:51:00

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ORIGINAL: Slayer OP

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ORIGINAL: Archaeox

Before we begin, I completed Vice City 100%, completed San Andreas 90-95%, and I played all the missions in GTA 3, they were the best games ever to me, but GTAIV was an epic disapointment

I hate how niko walks so slowly, how I have to hold another button to make him run

So you must be so clinically obese that it strains you to push another button. Lazy ass...

I hate how the framerate is only 30fps

You wouoldnt have even noticed if they didnt tell you. The framerate is SOLID. It doesnt drop at all. Thats a huge achievement for such a game.

I hate how there are no tanks

Tanks are not realistic. The army wont send a tank on one man. Thats why they are gone.

I hate how there are no airplanes

Planes are not needed to transverse across one city. That why they were only in san andreas which is a state and is the reason why they are not in GTA IV.

I hate how strong cops are

Boo hoo. Practice MOAR and become a better gamer. Then they wont be hard. Beause in real life the cops are strong.

I hate how long it takes for cars on fire to explode

Slightly reasonable but 7 seconds was not enough time to escale a falming car in san andreas. Im glad they did this.

I hate how easy it is to get pushed on the ground

He is a human. He can gat pushed to the ground. Plus I hardly ever fall over unless in drunk in the game.

I ESPECIALY HATE HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO ENTER A CHEAT CODE-I know it saves on the phone, but its not very easy to use it like that when under fire

FAIL. You had to push a 16 button combination in san andreas and now you only have to push the buttons ONCE then you can use them in your cell phone Once again your lazy.

I hate how we cant go underwater

What was the point of that in san andreas? To see a bunch of blue void? Its a waste of disc space.

8.4/10 is my rating for this game

????

Nice to see the game defended against IMHO nitpicking. People who don't like the game are in the vocal minority.

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RE: I HATE GTAIV - May-13th-2008 4:09:05

Slayer OP

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ORIGINAL: ChefDejon

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ORIGINAL: Archaeox

Before we begin, I completed Vice City 100%, completed San Andreas 90-95%, and I played all the missions in GTA 3, they were the best games ever to me, but GTAIV was an epic disapointment

I hate how niko walks so slowly, how I have to hold another button to make him run

So you must be so clinically obese that it strains you to push another button. Lazy ass...

I hate how the framerate is only 30fps

You wouoldnt have even noticed if they didnt tell you. The framerate is SOLID. It doesnt drop at all. Thats a huge achievement for such a game.

I hate how there are no tanks

Tanks are not realistic. The army wont send a tank on one man. Thats why they are gone.

I hate how there are no airplanes

Planes are not needed to transverse across one city. That why they were only in san andreas which is a state and is the reason why they are not in GTA IV.

I hate how strong cops are

Boo hoo. Practice MOAR and become a better gamer. Then they wont be hard. Beause in real life the cops are strong.

I hate how long it takes for cars on fire to explode

Slightly reasonable but 7 seconds was not enough time to escale a falming car in san andreas. Im glad they did this.

I hate how easy it is to get pushed on the ground

He is a human. He can gat pushed to the ground. Plus I hardly ever fall over unless in drunk in the game.

I ESPECIALY HATE HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO ENTER A CHEAT CODE-I know it saves on the phone, but its not very easy to use it like that when under fire

FAIL. You had to push a 16 button combination in san andreas and now you only have to push the buttons ONCE then you can use them in your cell phone Once again your lazy.

I hate how we cant go underwater

What was the point of that in san andreas? To see a bunch of blue void? Its a waste of disc space.

8.4/10 is my rating for this game

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i think there were fish underwater in san andreas

You couldnt do anything with them. They wasted at least half the dic space just making that blue void.

yeah but in general San Andreas is just the overall better gta

No it wasnt. San andreas had a terrible targeting system, bad physics, huge pop ins even when moving at slow speeds, wasted space with desert and countryside, and an immature wannabe ganster storyline. GTA IV suffers from none of these probelms.

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Totally overrated successor to an almost legendary series.
My score is 6 out of 10 (being generous).

PS: frame rate doesn't even reach 30(15-25 fps)
Driving is frustratingly bad and unrealistic, which makes it very hard to enjoy police chases or even try to overrun them.
Niko's controls are sluggish.
Freedom(hallmark of the series) is limited.
Collision detection is missed up
Rudimentary cover system.
Jaggies everywhere(migraine inducing).
Shallow repetitive missions.
defective hand to hand combat mechanics.

This game is truly THE MOST OVERRATED GAME IN GAMING HISTORY.

How reviewers gave this game perfect scores is truly beyond my mind....CORRUPTION.