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hell naw...for all we know, this game could be another Haze, and after that, I aint takin no more chances and embracing new titles that push themselves back and then after all that extra time push out crap anywayz...wtf was they thinkin...that was supposed to be the hot stuff last year when it was supposed to come out...now its the Lair of 2008.

Killzone could be the Lair of 2009, or the Halo3/Resitance, but we wont know, and until it proves itself, it should not be sold as a bundle.

MGS4, proved itself worthy, GTA4, proved itself worthy....notice anything? 4 times platinum, Kilzone has like 1 good one, and i would only give Liberation a silver.  Resistance 2 should have a bundle before Killzone 2, shoot, Ratchet and Clank derserve a bundle, they have been consistantly good since the first one(Deadlocked doesn't count b/c its just Ratchet). 

But If they make a Ratchet and Clank Kart Racer with a bundle, I will buy another PS3 just for that.

Actually this is a very good point... and well said... I really didn't look at it that way but I guess yeah, a game has to prove it's self in-order to get a bundle...

and you might be right, I hope your not, but you could be, and Killzone 2 could become the Haze or Lair of 2009....

and that would suck big time..... LoL (I seriously hope that doesnt' happen)

but from what I see they might be on there way to doing COD4 numbers... and that would be huge...

LOCK AND LOAD BABY!!!! INCOMING>...!!!

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Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

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ORIGINAL: bama
Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

so you can apply this logic with the CoD franchise right?
from what i gather CoD4 was the best one.

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ORIGINAL: bama
Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

so you can apply this logic with the CoD franchise right?
from what i gather CoD4 was the best one.

The original CoD games were also good as well. I bought KZ1 for my PS2 and while I liked it, it was clear that it wasn't the game that it was hyped up to be. I love FPS games and I will be getting KZ2 for my PS3 but seriously apart from the great graphics what does KZ2 do that every other FPS hasn't done before ?

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ORIGINAL: bama
Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

so you can apply this logic with the CoD franchise right?
from what i gather CoD4 was the best one.

The original CoD games were also good as well. I bought KZ1 for my PS2 and while I liked it, it was clear that it wasn't the game that it was hyped up to be. I love FPS games and I will be getting KZ2 for my PS3 but seriously apart from the great graphics what does KZ2 do that every other FPS hasn't done before ?

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Actually this is a very good point... and well said... I really didn't look at it that way but I guess yeah, a game has to prove it's self in-order to get a bundle...

and you might be right, I hope your not, but you could be, and Killzone 2 could become the Haze or Lair of 2009....

and that would suck big time..... LoL (I seriously hope that doesnt' happen)

but from what I see they might be on there way to doing COD4 numbers... and that would be huge...

LOCK AND LOAD BABY!!!! INCOMING>...!!!

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ORIGINAL: zonetrooper5

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ORIGINAL: bama
Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

so you can apply this logic with the CoD franchise right?
from what i gather CoD4 was the best one.

The original CoD games were also good as well. I bought KZ1 for my PS2 and while I liked it, it was clear that it wasn't the game that it was hyped up to be. I love FPS games and I will be getting KZ2 for my PS3 but seriously apart from the great graphics what does KZ2 do that every other FPS hasn't done before ?

it doesn't do much else that's different, i'm just saying that some people put a stigma on the sequel because of the first game. guerrilla is now owned by sony with a bigger dev team and a bigger budget so they can change a lot. whether or not it will live up to the hype is another story. i don't find any FPS being very innovative and yet people seem to single out Killzone 2 to be the game to do so? a little unfair don't you think?
has any other FPS that's been released or will be released have this sort of mentality by the industry as well?

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ORIGINAL: bama
Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

so you can apply this logic with the CoD franchise right?
from what i gather CoD4 was the best one.

The original CoD games were also good as well. I bought KZ1 for my PS2 and while I liked it, it was clear that it wasn't the game that it was hyped up to be. I love FPS games and I will be getting KZ2 for my PS3 but seriously apart from the great graphics what does KZ2 do that every other FPS hasn't done before ?

it doesn't do much else that's different, i'm just saying that some people put a stigma on the sequel because of the first game. guerrilla is now owned by sony with a bigger dev team and a bigger budget so they can change a lot. whether or not it will live up to the hype is another story. i don't find any FPS being very innovative and yet people seem to single out Killzone 2 to be the game to do so? a little unfair don't you think?
has any other FPS that's been released or will be released have this sort of mentality by the industry as well?

Halo 1, Timesplitters, Haze, Resistance, do you want me to keep going?

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No I'm saying they had just as many people thinking they would flop as this game.

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ORIGINAL: meepmoopmeep

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ORIGINAL: bama
Don't get your hopes up to high. Remember the original?

so you can apply this logic with the CoD franchise right?
from what i gather CoD4 was the best one.

The original CoD games were also good as well. I bought KZ1 for my PS2 and while I liked it, it was clear that it wasn't the game that it was hyped up to be. I love FPS games and I will be getting KZ2 for my PS3 but seriously apart from the great graphics what does KZ2 do that every other FPS hasn't done before ?

it doesn't do much else that's different, i'm just saying that some people put a stigma on the sequel because of the first game. guerrilla is now owned by sony with a bigger dev team and a bigger budget so they can change a lot. whether or not it will live up to the hype is another story. i don't find any FPS being very innovative and yet people seem to single out Killzone 2 to be the game to do so? a little unfair don't you think?
has any other FPS that's been released or will be released have this sort of mentality by the industry as well?

Halo 1, Timesplitters, Haze, Resistance, do you want me to keep going?

please enlighten me with their innovation. they reinvented the wheel, yeah?

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No I'm saying they had just as many people thinking they would flop as this game.

oh ok, wasn't too sure if we were on the same page.
yeah, every game has people who will think it will flop.
not every game lives up to its hyped that's for sure.

back on topic:

i don't think KZ2 deserves its own bundle since it's not that big of a franchise but i could see sony making a bundle for it to create a sort of illusion that it is a big thing and it will also get it into the hands of people who aren't fans or familiar with the franchise. most people tend to buy bundles if they find them.

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no one expected haze to be as bad as it is...i dont think that many people expected resistance to flop, rather the fact that the ps3 was getting so much crap back then, anyone who wasnt a sony fan was gonna give that game crap b/c ppl were hatin on ps3 hard back then...it was truly sad.

idk about the other ones tho

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did halo come b4 socom? b/c i believe socom did some of that...although im not sure if the first one had vehicles or not, but it def had big levels that were at times rather wide, especially the online.

this is why resistance has such big levels

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no one expected haze to be as bad as it is...i dont think that many people expected resistance to flop, rather the fact that the ps3 was getting so much crap back then, anyone who wasnt a sony fan was gonna give that game crap b/c ppl were hatin on ps3 hard back then...it was truly sad.

idk about the other ones tho

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No I'm saying they had just as many people thinking they would flop as this game.

oh ok, wasn't too sure if we were on the same page.
yeah, every game has people who will think it will flop.
not every game lives up to its hyped that's for sure.

back on topic:

i don't think KZ2 deserves its own bundle since it's not that big of a franchise but i could see sony making a bundle for it to create a sort of illusion that it is a big thing and it will also get it into the hands of people who aren't fans or familiar with the franchise. most people tend to buy bundles if they find them.

Most people who would buy the game already know about it and already have a PS3. Only people I could see this happening with is some kid at Christmas. Really if Sony wants to make a bundle they should make a FFXIII one and a GTA5 one. No other games deserve a bundle.

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Halo 1 was a special game for its era, it combined wide, open and big levels for the player to play in with the introduction of vehicle based combat then you got the rechargable heath/shields. Halo 1 was a great game which did alot of new things which I think FPS's games wanted to do but they just didn't do it.