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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:17:33   
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Spore won 4 years running, LBP would be my pick for GOTS.

But Once again its very clear KZ2 A.I. is semi retarded, and why is it we're watching single player and that poke didn't get destroyed, but in MP it would have?

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:19:02   
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Easily best graphics. It beats any game that was at E3. Gameplay looks just as good.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:20:12   
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I guess destructibility is limited to multiplayer

A.I. still isn't the best as they seem to get caught sleeping a lot and are a bit slow with reaction time but its better than last time imo.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:20:35   
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Easily best graphics. It beats any game that was at E3. Gameplay looks just as good.


what the hell was good about the gameplay, the A.I. running up to him, the guy crotching and not shooting at you, the two guys firing at your A.I. buddy but ignoring you?

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:23:44   
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The A.I. not the best yet we know but seriously i have no doubt it will be . So far GG has proved every doubter wrong and though it may seem like an impossible task, i have confidence they can prove the mighty forum guru odion wrong.

Seriously though A.I. isn't the best but it has improved. They just need to make the A.I. sharper and give them flanking abilities also main guy takes too many shots to die.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:24:07   
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Easily best graphics. It beats any game that was at E3. Gameplay looks just as good.


what the hell was good about the gameplay, the A.I. running up to him, the guy crotching and not shooting at you, the two guys firing at your A.I. buddy but ignoring you?

Ya, I'm not impressed by the A.I. either.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:26:07   
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I don't want to sound like a troll but i have honestly seen so many people so interested in a game i am utterly uninterested in. What was it in POP that you liked the most?


First of all, did you play The Sands of Time, second, do you even like platformers?  I got the same feeling from the New Prince of Persia that I got when I first saw ICO.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:28:06   
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The A.I. not the best yet we know but seriously i have no doubt it will be . So far GG has proved every doubter wrong and though it may seem like an impossible task, i have confidence they can prove the mighty forum guru odion wrong.

Seriously though A.I. isn't the best but it has improved. They just need to make the A.I. sharper and give them flanking abilities also main guy takes too many shots to die.


what have they proved us wrong with? That they can make a really good looking game? The gameplays most important aspect, A.I. still looks like complete ass, and at this point it shouldn't, they should be dealing with bugs and glitches, not having to rework the entire AI

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:29:13   
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maybe for me game of show was lbp.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:32:32   
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I don't want to sound like a troll but i have honestly seen so many people so interested in a game i am utterly uninterested in. What was it in POP that you liked the most?


First of all, did you play The Sands of Time, second, do you even like platformers?  I got the same feeling from the New Prince of Persia that I got when I first saw ICO.


Yes i like platformers. Yes i played sands of time and in my opinion sands of time combat was better. I rememeber there was an emphasis on countering and you had to fight more than one enemy at once. The only thing i always found awesome about POP was the awesome platforming and the animations.

From what i saw in the video you can't die from a jump cus the blue girl saves you everytime. It takes away from the challenge and was simply a cheap move to attract casuals in my opinion

The animation in this one is great but its about on par with sands of time.
Combat is crap because its only one enemy at a time.
From all this i honestly feel this game is simply another assasins creed fiasco

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 20:34:44   
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what have they proved us wrong with? That they can make a really good looking game? The gameplays most important aspect, A.I. still looks like complete ass, and at this point it shouldn't, they should be dealing with bugs and glitches, not having to rework the entire AI


Well the main doubt over killzone 2 was the graphics to begin with and since that was disproved, everyone started ****ting on the gameplay. The SP can be crap for all i care seriously. Pretty much every shooter has crap SP but so far MP is looking awesome and that is enough to make me happy

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 21:49:40   
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what the hell was good about the gameplay, the A.I. running up to him, the guy crotching and not shooting at you, the two guys firing at your A.I. buddy but ignoring you?


The good is the physics, the realistic animations, the immersive atmosphere, etc.

So what you're saying is that whenever you show your face on screen, EVERY enemy needs to attack you. No, not your AI buddy, not the tanks, not the reinforcements: YOU. Out of an entire army. That would be terrible AI in my opinion. Also, with months to polish and finetune (I'm using some long-term thinking here, try it with me) this game should have very little to complain about.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 21:54:26   
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Mag Killzone LBP Fable II and Prince of Persia were all awesome looking gamers and did wonders for this show...

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 21:56:00   
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remember the good ol' saying, pre-alpha, demo was probably set to easy, or normal at best. Hope to see harder mode, AI isn't top notch, but I heard that it'll be improved a lot during the 6 months period. The guy playing is a major nub, can't take a second without spraying at the stairs.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 22:02:24   
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through sony tinted goggles maybe.


my picks are prince of persia or mirrors edge. travesty if neither wins .
Hardly, Sony ****ed up big time ignoring this game completely  at sony conference when this game destroys everything by a mile. Did you see that footage?


Actually I think it was smart of them no to focus on this game, and let all these videos pouring in do the talking. Instead they focused on a bunch of new and original games which is what E3 used to be about.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 22:24:43   
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lol

I know there are a lot of HALO haters, but there are some serious KZ haters here...

The game looks amazing, from visuals to gameplay.

Most of the haters won't give credit to the game no matter how good it is. period. No point in arguing with them.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 22:29:45   
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i don't think FPS ever have the smartest AI's; that being said, how do we know that they weren't playing on a lower level AI so the guy wouldn't die?

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 22:35:54   
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i don't think FPS ever have the smartest AI's; that being said, how do we know that they weren't playing on a lower level AI so the guy wouldn't die?


Fear A.I. top notch. 2nd place to Halo 1,2 or 3. All had top notch memorable A.I. at least amongst the games i have played

A lot of what is mistaken for bad KZ2 A.I. is simply the enemy attacking your squad mate instead of you. Its still no excuse because I paid for the game not my squad mate. I want all the thrills so shoot me before you shoot squad mat. They also don't flank and they stay behind same cover too much.

More i think of it, the A.I. is slightly below avg but only slightly. Its not good enough at all. Resistance had some pretty good A.I. too and so did uncharted

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 22:46:25   
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but halo 3 looks like a joke graphically and gameplay wise compared to Killzone 2 right now in both multiplayer and single player. I'll fight with anyone who argues against me.My hate towards halo 3 is now at an all time high after these videos. :o.


Use this my SONY sodier


I love how fanboys defend their game regardless by calling the other person a fanboy. I thought halo 3 was ****, and killzone 2 looks better. I have an opinion that isn't the same as yours and you are bagging me for it. Grow some balls soon.  I stated sony conference sucked badly, and was called out as a xbot. Man, you guys are really pathetic. Thanks for making my ignore list even bigger. And the pepoe bagging on it for AI,  wow. So moving around, and using the cover system crazy, and sometimes trying to rampage and attack you, and able to dodge rockets. Pretty amazing AI at llest from what I saw. Much better than the **** RFOM 2 put up with scripted events. The one complaint I have about killzone 2 is the terrible dialogue, every other line has the word ****, ****, and ass.
-AI like this can't be called bad.

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RE: Killzone 2 wins game of the show - Jul.-16th-2008 22:50:30   
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i don't think FPS ever have the smartest AI's; that being said, how do we know that they weren't playing on a lower level AI so the guy wouldn't die?
I saw the guy die playing hell's highway... maybe normal is the easiest level....

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