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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-17th-2008 18:29:21

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Seriously? I don't care anymore. The PS3 is still getting the most exclusives down the line so I could care less about FF XIII going multi. I will still be picking up FF XIII on the first day of the release.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-17th-2008 20:28:55

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I believe the President said he wanted to make each version, a version that takes advantage of the different qualities of the system.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-17th-2008 20:36:20

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Changed my mind? hell with how few we have seen I haven't even made my mind in the first place -_-

But I guess I will probably buy it anyway :P

Actually with less info I am more hyped in anticipation of SO4 XD

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 0:32:03

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its diffently a first day buy for me as of now... I have had great times playing square soft/ enix games. but it does concern me going multi....

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 0:42:20

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Right... In short...

FFXIII PS3 hasn't changed, nor has development stopped. It'll be completed before FFXIII 360 is made. Therefore, only FFXIII 360 will have complications, given how a BluRay has a little less than 11 times the storage capacity of a DVD and how FFXIII PS3 will probably use most of that space up...

So has anything really changed? No. I'm still buying the game when it's released in Japan on the PS3.

Do I care that it's gone multiplatform? No. As far as I'm concerned, it'll show 360 owners what real RPGs are (which is reason enough to go buy a PS3, if you ask me).

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 0:47:52

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The game will be the same on both systems...lol.

The only difference in ports is usually color saturation, framerate, etc...usually because of differences in the video card or how the different CPUs handle the code.

Both games will use of the exact same game assets. artwork, character models..etc. This thread is amusing.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 0:51:47

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Yea but DMC4 PS3 was definitely gimped. We were promised 1080p and 60fps but 360 version came along and they stopped that talk. I wouldn't be pissed if it got gimped though. FFXIII is very very very far off my most anticipated games list

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 1:18:18

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The game will be the same on both systems...lol.

The only difference in ports is usually color saturation, framerate, etc...usually because of differences in the video card or how the different CPUs handle the code.

Both games will use of the exact same game assets. artwork, character models..etc. This thread is amusing.

Wow...you must have such an inside track to be able to come up with THAT much information.

Either that or you do what you usually do: Pull random things out of your ass and call them confirmed fact.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 1:22:57

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Wow...you must have such an inside track to be able to come up with THAT much information.

Either that or you do what you usually do: Pull random things out of your ass and call them confirmed fact.

Pull what out of my ass?

They make all of the game models and textures on PCs with art programs then put them on the dev kits. It's called graphic design. Do you think they are going to start all over to port it to another system?

There is a reason why multiplatform games look similar you know. They use all of the same artwork and everything.

The only things that are usually downgraded are the resolutions or framerates because the weaker processor of the two can't handle it.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 1:28:12

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Wow...you must have such an inside track to be able to come up with THAT much information.

Either that or you do what you usually do: Pull random things out of your ass and call them confirmed fact.

Pull what out of my ass?

They make all of the game models and textures on PCs then put them on the dev kits. Do you think they are going to start all over to port it to another system?

There is a reason why multiplatform games look similar you know. They use all of the same artwork and everything.

The only things that are usually downgraded are the resolutions or framerates because the weaker processor of the two can't handle it.

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You're logic, or lack thereof, never ceases to amaze me.

You DO know that the 360 version is going to be on multiple discs, right, and they will probably have to be compressing them in order to get it to fit on as little number of discs as possible (the PS3 version will only have to use one disc).

And you DO know that the game is still being made with the PS3 as the lead system in mind, right? They were making this for the PS3 until recently, and they are making the PS3 version first. They will more or less have to compress some things (they already said they would have to) for the 360 version.

Once again, you fail at simple logic and instead decide to pull these random things out of the air and expect us to believe they are fact just because you said they were. You're cherry-picking the articles you want to believe, as well.

EDIT: So you admitted that the 360 isn't the most powerful processor? Does that mean that you'll be reporting yourself soon (because, well, it seems that you cannot stand seeing any bad news about the 360 on N4G)?

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 1:33:16

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You DO know that the 360 version is going to be on multiple discs, right, and they will probably have to be compressing them in order to get it to fit on as little number of discs as possible (the PS3 version will only have to use one disc

The amount of disks something is on has nothing to do the way a game looks. It is just a storage medium. And people who design games use compression for any kind of disk. Even for Blu-ray otherwise the loading times would be horrible.

I am talking about game design in general and you are trying to turn this into some stupid fanboy type of thing. It is amusing I guess.

I guess if I use your twisted logic then the PS3 version of Bioshock is going to be complete garbage. Seeing as how it was designed for the Xbox 360/PC architecture. See how that works when you try and think things out like a fanboy?

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 1:46:59

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You DO know that the 360 version is going to be on multiple discs, right, and they will probably have to be compressing them in order to get it to fit on as little number of discs as possible (the PS3 version will only have to use one disc

The amount of disks something is on has nothing to do the way a game looks. It is just a storage medium.

And people who design games use compression for any kind of disk. Even for Blu-ray otherwise the loading times would be horrible.

I am talking about game design in general and you are trying to turn this into some stupid fanboy type of thing. It is amusing I guess.

I guess if I use your twisted logic then the PS3 version of Bioshock is going to be complete garbage. Seeing as how it was designed for the Xbox 360/PC architecture. See how that works when you try and think things out like a fanboy?

Okay, so once again you turn a valid point into a reason why you just throw the label around. It's like that's you're only way to disprove anything.

For one, I said it because you failed to bring it up (because you're the one that said it would be the exact same way as the PS3 version, something that in of itself isn't entirely proven because no one really knows for sure how the end result will be. They are intending the version to play the same, but who knows that), and two, because it will have to be on multiple discs and they obviously don't want you to have to have this 10 disc game (we don't know how much space they need for the game, exactly), they'll have to compress certain things some. That may mean graphics (which means the game may not be exactly the same as the other version), sound, among other things. Which means in the end, it may not be as good presentation wise. See, I used simple logic there to provide my answer that you'll obviously not like so you'll immediately throw that fanboy label on me. And yeah, this is about game design because it's about the game medium that AFFECTS how a game IS designed because you have to worry about how much space you will have and what you will be able to do with the game given the disc space.

And, umm...have you SEEN the PS3 ports up until now? This is because devs have been really lazy about taking advantage of the increased disc space of BR and how much more powerful the PS3 can be. This is because the 360 was the leading consle to develop the games. In case you forgot, FF13 was originally a PS3 exclusive, so it was made with the PS3 in mind (and will continue to be).

And you forgot about control schemes (I don't know if the 360 contoller is meant to play something like that, but I guess it's of personal preference, I like the PS3 controller and I'm sure some people like the 360 one), another thing that will be radically different that could affect what system you get the game on.

Besides, up until we found this out about FF13, you dissed the franchise any chance you got? Now you're suddenly acting like it's going to run like a dream on the 360 and you cannot wait for it (me either, but I'm getting it on the PS3, obviously). Wonder why.

EDIT SINCE YOU SEEM TO KNOW WHEN I"M RESPONDING AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE AT THE LAST SECOND:

When did I ever say FF13 would play like garbage on the 360? I'm only saying that the 360 may not get as good of a version because SE is essentially porting the game from the PS3 to the 360. It's you who's twisting my words around to mean something different now.

And concerning Bioshock, didn't the developers of that game say something concerning that they were halfway thinking about the PS3 when first developing it or something to that effect (it was on N4G, after all)?

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 2:49:38

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Both of you are wrong, and just as bad as each other. Therefore, shut up.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 2:52:39

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Both of you are wrong, and just as bad as each other. Therefore, shut up.

Well, there you go. That certainly told us.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 3:01:11

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Hurray, now, I shall present a compromise:

Both versions of the games will either be exactly the same, or have differences so trivial that no-one with a life will notice said differences. The game will be just as fun for PS3 owners as it will be PS3 owners, and the fact that the game has gone multiplatform only means that more gamers can enjoy this wonderful product. However, those who constantly argue on the internet over these things probably won't be enjoying it half as much as someone who doesn't concern themself with fanboyism. They've ruined the experience (of gaming as a whole) for themselves, don't be dragged down with them.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 3:10:46

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Hurray, now, I shall present a compromise:

Both versions of the games will either be exactly the same, or have differences so trivial that no-one with a life will notice said differences. The game will be just as fun for PS3 owners as it will be PS3 owners, and the fact that the game has gone multiplatform only means that more gamers can enjoy this wonderful product. However, those who constantly argue on the internet over these things probably won't be enjoying it half as much as someone who doesn't concern themself with fanboyism. They've ruined the experience (of gaming as a whole) for themselves, don't be dragged down with them.

Well, you might be right and you might be wrong on this.

My problem mainly is with the continued practice of telling us that something is proven fact when nothing in any article ever said such things as definite (Bloodmask has been known to do that, so SOMEONE has to make sure he's honest). For all we know, the 360 version could be like GTA4 or it could be what the Orange Box was to the PS3.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 3:15:06

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Well, you might be right and you might be wrong on this.

My problem mainly is with the continued practice of telling us that something is proven fact when nothing in any article ever said such things as definite (Bloodmask has been known to do that, so SOMEONE has to make sure he's honest). For all we know, the 360 version could be like GTA4 or it could be what the Orange Box was to the PS3.

Regardless of who's "right", in the end, the argument's objective is fairly pathetic, and if I was in this argument, I would have left it alone by now in the hope of retaining some dignity.

Btw, I had just sa much fun playin the Orange Box on PS3 as I did on PC, since I wasn't nitpicking at the game, and I hadn't heard anything about which version was "superior" prior to playing either version. You see, it really, really doesn't matter, and simply isn't worth arguing over.

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 9:03:38

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Regardless of who's "right", in the end, the argument's objective is fairly pathetic, and if I was in this argument, I would have left it alone by now in the hope of retaining some dignity.

Btw, I had just sa much fun playin the Orange Box on PS3 as I did on PC, since I wasn't nitpicking at the game, and I hadn't heard anything about which version was "superior" prior to playing either version. You see, it really, really doesn't matter, and simply isn't worth arguing over.

they were debating, and some of us here was kinda enjoying it.

and it does matter, because hard earned money will be spent for this game. everyone wants to make sure theirs is up to snuff.

and about your orange box comment. I once knew a dog that ate ****....cause his owners fed him ****......he didnt know any better cause all he ever had was....****!!....
and he loved it

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 9:31:15

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FF 13 will be a great game on either system

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RE: FFFXIII change your mind? - Jul.-18th-2008 9:33:39

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Regardless of who's "right", in the end, the argument's objective is fairly pathetic, and if I was in this argument, I would have left it alone by now in the hope of retaining some dignity.

Btw, I had just sa much fun playin the Orange Box on PS3 as I did on PC, since I wasn't nitpicking at the game, and I hadn't heard anything about which version was "superior" prior to playing either version. You see, it really, really doesn't matter, and simply isn't worth arguing over.

they were debating, and some of us here was kinda enjoying it.

and it does matter, because hard earned money will be spent for this game. everyone wants to make sure theirs is up to snuff.

and about your orange box comment. I once knew a dog that ate ****....cause his owners fed him ****......he didnt know any better cause all he ever had was....****!!....
and he loved it

Dog eating sh** is nothing shocking. If you go to Vietnam then you'll know what I'm talking about.

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