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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:05:23

LJWooly

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You can't use the bill & Melinda Gate's foundations's charity endeavours to argue a case for Microsoft, because Microsoft simply has nothing to do with that. Bill Gates, but not Microsoft. I also don't think it's entirely unreasonable to have expected one of the richest men in the world to give a substantial amount to charity, anyway.

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:05:25

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hehehe.. i know, business is business. dont take me too seriously, im not about to pie an MS exec in the face :P

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You can't use the bill & Melinda Gate's foundations's charity endeavours to argue a case for Microsoft, because Microsoft simply has nothing to do with that. Bill Gates, but not Microsoft. I also don't think it's entirely unreasonable to have expected one of the richest men in the world to give a substantial amount to charity, anyway.

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i hate how some avid MS fanatics somehow try to relate Bill Gates' generosity to reflect that of Microsoft Corp.
i admire Bill Gates, i really do, and i wish him the best.

now that he's gone from MS, i don't mind seeing it crumble :P

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:07:47

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Hotmail
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No MS does not give things away for free, not at all...

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:08:12

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ORIGINAL: LJWooly

You can't use the bill & Melinda Gate's foundations's charity endeavours to argue a case for Microsoft, because Microsoft simply has nothing to do with that. Bill Gates, but not Microsoft. I also don't think it's entirely unreasonable to have expected one of the richest men in the world to give a substantial amount to charity, anyway.

I'm not saying they're one and the same. My point was people talk about these evil corporations like they're out to get us, but at some point down the line, they're all run by real people. Bill Gates is retired, but for a lot of years he was the guy behind "evil" MS. He's really not such a bad guy. He's just another business man. It's not like he puts on his evil hat when he goes into work and spends the day trying to f*ck people over any way he can.

I kind of addressed that in my original post.

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i hate how some avid MS fanatics somehow try to relate Bill Gates' generosity to reflect that of Microsoft Corp.
i admire Bill Gates, i really do, and i wish him the best.

now that he's gone from MS, i don't mind seeing it crumble :P

Whoever's running it now might be a pefectly nice guy as well.

I don't want to sound like some MS flag waving fanboy. I don't run Windows, don't have an xbox, in fact I don't think I own a single one of their products. I just don't get all the hate. It's based on a lawsuit most of us really don't know that much about. We talk one moment about these faceless coprorations that don't care about us, then we turn around and project evil onto them. Which one is it?

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:09:04

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Hotmail
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No MS does not give things away for free, not at all...

so can you access your Hotmail from any email client for free? i don't think so.
IE is free because no one pays for Internet Browsers when there are many that are better and free.
no one pays for chat programs either.

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:13:20

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Hotmail
IE
MSN Messenger

No MS does not give things away for free, not at all...

so can you access your Hotmail from any email client for free? i don't think so.
IE is free because no one pays for Internet Browsers when there are many that are better and free.
no one pays for chat programs either.

I think if you wanted to get the hotmail pop servers and access it from Thunderbird or something you could do that. Or you could just broswe to hotmail.com using opera or something if you really want to stick it to them. ;)

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:17:49

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ORIGINAL: zonetrooper5

Hotmail
IE
MSN Messenger

No MS does not give things away for free, not at all...

so can you access your Hotmail from any email client for free? i don't think so.
IE is free because no one pays for Internet Browsers when there are many that are better and free.
no one pays for chat programs either.

I think if you wanted to get the hotmail pop servers and access it from Thunderbird or something you could do that. Or you could just broswe to hotmail.com using opera or something if you really want to stick it to them. ;)

no i'm talking about accessing it via an email client. you can't do that with Hotmail, Yahoo, or any other without a subscription.
Gmail is the only email service that i know of that can be used with any email client.

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:21:25

Polluted

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I thought you could. That's what Thunderbird is, a free e-mail client. I looked into it and it turns out you need to have hotmail plus ($19.95) for POP access.
It's hardly what I'd call evil, though, that they'd expect you to look at a couple of ads to use their free e-mail service.

Edit: I think we're going to have to settle this with a fist fight moop. Meet me behind the bleachers after class.

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RE: Google - Aug.-3th-2008 17:24:48

meepmoopmeep

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I thought you could. That's what Thunderbird is, a free e-mail client. I looked into it and it turns out you need to have hotmail plus ($19.95) for POP access.
It's hardly what I'd call evil, though, that they'd expect you to look at a couple of ads to use their free e-mail service.

Edit: I think we're going to have to settle this with a fist fight moop. Meet me behind the bleachers after class.

yeah, that's what i figured, i haven't checked it they started giving it for free or not.
i don't like the way the browser Gmail is set up, but i use an email client anyhow.

but so far, from what i know, Gmail is the only email service you can use any email client without any fee.
i think you can access Hotmail if you use an MS client like Outlook or Outlook express, i'm not sure though.

EDIT: hahaha.. i'm not trying to argue, just giving my opinion. i never said it was evil. i was just stating that Google offers a lot of services for free to everyone, where finding the same services would require a fee by most others.
and i'm not trying to convince anyone that i'm educated, i'm not, i'm dumb really.

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