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ORIGINAL: Satanas

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ORIGINAL: Jon_Smackenrow

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ORIGINAL: - The Corrupt -

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There is no technique in systema. There is no form in Systema. That just show how little you know. It is not better to learn something by oneself it is always better to learn with a pastern. Give me a woman that master systema breathing and grappling and punching and she will lay waste to Satanas.
Satanas can't defend against a one inch punch. You have to know how to absorb the blow and not let the impact stay in you.

Russians stole from every culture because they fought everyone at one time.

Right... I've read up on it now, and I still haven't changed my point. Systema is an awesome Martial Art, but it isn't the best - as you seem to infer. As for the bolded part, that's sexist. I'm female, and I can beat almost anyone in my class. I could probably kick your butt, your Systema against my Jujutsu. As for absorbing the blow of a one inch punch, Jujutsu teaches you to use your attackers energy against them. It also greatly improves concentration and reflexes. So it wouldn't be considerably difficult to counter a one inch punch with a strike or throw of my own.

1.Using attackers energy is not the same as absorbing a punch.
2.Do you guys practice being hit? Not someone throwing a hay maker at you but actually being hit.
3.Do you you guys practices while seated?
4. Can you escape a rear naked choke, without your hands or feet? I can.
5. Do you practices being held by multipule attackers?
6. There are guys in systema that can stop your heart with one blow. There are guys that can make al your muscles on one side clinch breaking your spine with one blow. And the elbow of these strikes never leave the front of them.
As for beating you up. You are a girl. You are lighter then me, weaker then me, not as fast as me, and my bones are thicker and larger. Me beating you up would prove nothing, other then I am mean and "hate women." Calling me sexist doesn't work on the street or the back alley. Men and women are different I will always be much much stronger then you. And don't kid yourself I am not going to wait for you to remember one of you moves. You memory is useless in a real fight. Thinking is useless in a real fight.

Systema is nowhere near as good as you make it out to be. You do not come off as a real martial artist, sorry to say it. You don't have the respect a real graduate of the system would.

As for stopping your heart, any proper art has a deadly technique pressure point system. Systema is just a Russian variant of all these systems with more focus on actual training than any forms (which is fine). And yes, we practise full contact, multiple attackers. So does Kyokushin kaikan, all of which Systema is absolutely no better than.

Sorry, but you come off as extremely ignorant. You just think since you do Systema that it's the hot shït, I've seen punks like that all the time. Even Karateka say the same bull.

And the reason I like BJJ is because being on the ground is a far worse position than standing if you don't know what to do. I'm not a fan of only knowing one system. Systema is fine but if you have no ground game, you'll get annihilated.

You're also ignorant for assuming we have to recall or think during a fight. How stupid are you? Systema is no different than another Martial Art in terms of having learned basics that should become part of one's instant reactions. I've studied many Martial Arts, and I can see you're just full of shït. Don't hype the one Art you know of so much if you don't know anything about any other Art. As for forms, those are alternate ways of learning the proper technique. You have to actually have full contact sparring and self defense situations to use them on people trying to attack you. It's not like you do one and not the other, that would be stupid. Only some very old Koryu do not have contact at this point.

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Kyokushin kaikan

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The only person pretending to know everything is you. And the only person who is still dead off is you.
I think my stuff is the best how is that not respecting someone else's stuff. All the respect in the world doesn't mean you are going to win a fight. Especially a dirty fight.
You still don't understand. Systema does teach a ground game. Systema even teaches how to fight people, who are on their feet, while you are on knees or back. It is all the same thing. It's all the same motion.
Systema doesn't have technique so there nothing to forget nothing to remember. Even BJ Penn will tell you that you drop a belt with a knee to the head. If you are in a stance you are not doing Systema. Kyokushinkaikan has technique. So Kyokushinkaikan and Systema are not the same. Why are you saying that Systema has technique?

You live in Canada, go visit a systema master. Tell him that Systema has no ground game. That it just like any other martial art. Bring some of your friends along.

...22 days...

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1.Using attackers energy is not the same as absorbing a punch.
2.Do you guys practice being hit? Not someone throwing a hay maker at you but actually being hit.
3.Do you you guys practices while seated?
4. Can you escape a rear naked choke, without your hands or feet? I can.
5. Do you practices being held by multipule attackers?

So that is a no on 1 threw 5. I don't care about martial art. I care about win a fight.

Of course I think that I am right. Everyone think that they are right. I am blind to what everyone else has to say? I answered all your arguments and launched my own. You still answer my question or you are blind.

You are calling me out now you are throwing up the white flag. Is that what you learned in Jujitsu?

See? Stupid arrogance. I'll play your little game, then.

1. You don't need to absorb the blow. You can use the energy exerted by your opponent in making the blow to floor them.
2. We can, yes. We stand there, and they hit various parts of our body. It helps focus the mind and toughen bones.
3. You don't need to practice to fight while seated to be able to fight while seated.
4. It's derived from a judo technique. Of course we're trained to counter it.
5. Again. we're trained not to get ourselves in such deep ****.

Martial arts isn't taught to people to win fights. It's taught to focus the mind, and to provide methods for protection. There's no reason under any circumstances that you'd ever find yourself surrounded by a group of men or attacked while sitting down where you can't deal with it with Jujutsu. If they happen to be armed, then they're completely screwed because they're basically giving you a weapon thanks to the Kendo training.

I'll reiterate my point: Systema is a great martial art. It is not, however, the best.

5. This is what it all comes down to, when are you going to get into a fair fight? Is there some relaxation technique that is going to erase the 7 other people. If someone is going to harm you they are not going to fight fair. There is no fair fights outside the ring there is just win. It doesn't matter how it does matter about self-esteem or a focus mind. No one is going to wait till you get a focus mind. Wicked men fight dirty, and if they fight with you it means they have done it before. They are not looking to grapple with you on the ground.

Systema is the best. Everything else is the rest. When you learn Systema it destroys the other martial art train in you mind. Systema can't live side by side in someone's mind.

I don't like being call stupid arrogant.

All you've actually proven is that you're too arrogant to face someone like me or Satanas. We'd have already won before the fight began. Overconfidence in one's art or skill is deadly when your opponent is level headed and of equal skill.

Your point about my reply to 5... Er... You've completely lost me. When, in my lifetime, am I going to find myself fighting seven people at the same time? That's irrespective, however. Just as your adrenaline starts running, you click into focus. Unlike you, our fight or flight response is controlled. We're in control. While our assailants are attacking wildly, we're trained to maintain our composure and to fight in a way as effective as possible to either reduce the effectiveness of their group (either by breaking knees or getting into a position or area where their number counts for nothing) or to find a way out of the fight. They can fight as dirty as they like because that only creates more openings for precise strikes at vunerable points in their body.

As I've said, you have shown Systema up completely. As far as anyone in these forums are aware, all people training in Systema could be as arrogant and as blind as you are to the true purpose of martial arts. So congratulations on ruining my view of the martial art.

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Over confidence is think you know what the guy is going to throw at you. Overconfidence is thinking you have you adrenaline clears you mind. Overconfidence is think you already won a fight you haven't started. Overconfident is thinking you are going to keep standing after a one inch punch that feels like a book shelf. Overconfident is think you oppent isn't as methodical and even headed as you. See to a wicked man fight is just like breathing.
If you are going to use your hand to strike then you already lose. The fist is next to worthless in a real fight.

...22 days...

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ORIGINAL: Jon_Smackenrow

The only person pretending to know everything is you. And the only person who is still dead off is you.
I think my stuff is the best how is that not respecting someone else's stuff. All the respect in the world doesn't mean you are going to win a fight. Especially a dirty fight.
You still don't understand. Systema does teach a ground game. Systema even teaches how to fight people, who are on their feet, while you are on knees or back. It is all the same thing. It's all the same motion.
Systema doesn't have technique so there nothing to forget nothing to remember. Even BJ Penn will tell you that you drop a belt with a knee to the head. If you are in a stance you are not doing Systema. Kyokushinkaikan has technique. So Kyokushinkaikan and Systema are not the same. Why are you saying that Systema has technique?

You live in Canada, go visit a systema master. Tell him that Systema has no ground game. That it just like any other martial art. Bring some of your friends along.

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Secondly, you need to shut up. You're no martial artist, and therefore you don't belong in this thread. If you believe the only application of martial arts is to fight against seven people on the streets, then you're no better than a street thug who uses streetfighting. As for the whole "remembering" thing - if you're of adequate skill, you don't need to remember **** all! Almost everything in martial arts is a natural movement which can be used instinctively. There is no needing to remember a certain technique. Technique's are drilled into your head for a reason.

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Smackenrow should stick to giving people Workout tips. He was actually useful in that other thread.

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Over confidence is think you know what the guy is going to throw at you. Overconfidence is thinking you have you adrenaline clears you mind. Overconfidence is think you already won a fight you haven't started. Overconfident is thinking you are going to keep standing after a one inch punch that feels like a book shelf. Overconfident is think you oppent isn't as methodical and even headed as you. See to a wicked man fight is just like breathing.
If you are going to use your hand to strike then you already lose. The fist is next to worthless in a real fight.

Way to contradict yourself, dumbass. Just to note, however, that this one inch punch of yours would never work. Martial arts focuses on keeping your opponent within your attacking range while staying out of theirs. In other words, you wouldn't get close enough to me to use a one-inch punch at the best of times - if you were that close, and we were in a real fight, I would have knee'd your balls by then.

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The only person pretending to know everything is you. And the only person who is still dead off is you.
I think my stuff is the best how is that not respecting someone else's stuff. All the respect in the world doesn't mean you are going to win a fight. Especially a dirty fight.
You still don't understand. Systema does teach a ground game. Systema even teaches how to fight people, who are on their feet, while you are on knees or back. It is all the same thing. It's all the same motion.
Systema doesn't have technique so there nothing to forget nothing to remember. Even BJ Penn will tell you that you drop a belt with a knee to the head. If you are in a stance you are not doing Systema. Kyokushinkaikan has technique. So Kyokushinkaikan and Systema are not the same. Why are you saying that Systema has technique?

You live in Canada, go visit a systema master. Tell him that Systema has no ground game. That it just like any other martial art. Bring some of your friends along.

Your stuff is not the best, and proves your ignorance. And it is disrespecting plenty of Arts which Systema has derived its basics system from. Therefore, I am inclined to believe you are extremely ignorant.

Systema's ground game is secondary. I've done tons of ground game arts, and the most advanced one is BJJ, which is completely, only ground game. It is made for that purpose.

You act like Systema is the only Martial Art to do the things you say and it is not. Therefore, you must not know anything about other Martial Arts. All forms of Jujutsu have you fend of multiple standing attackers while on your back. Kyokushin kaikan has technique and free/contact sparring. and LOL at Systema not having technique. You don't even know what technique means, I assume. BJ Penn does BJJ as his specialty, you know. And you know why? Because it is one of the most popular Martial Arts on the planet for its practicality. Stop feeding yourself bullshït, please. For your own good. BJJ's ground game is its specialty.

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I have done this, I have done that. I,I,I,I

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BJ PEN doesn't do BJJ to fit in. He doesn't do it because it because it is a good "clean" ground game. BJ Pen wants too win matches. I am not going to get into the octagon or pick a fair fight.
Systema has no technique. Learning technique doesn't help your non-technique.

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Systema sucks. It is for little girls.

Icewake's .5 inch punch> Systema's one inch punch.

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Systema sucks. It is for little girls.

Icewake's .5 inch punch> Systema's one inch punch.

Icewake doesn't fight. When your that "too good looking" you just keep a stick to keep the girls off.

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BJ PEN doesn't do BJJ to fit in. He doesn't do it because it because it is a good "clean" ground game. BJ Pen wants too win matches. I am not going to get into the octagon or pick a fair fight.
Systema has no technique. Learning technique doesn't help your non-technique.

You're an idiot. Technique is what you learn.

You're an idiot. You're telling everyone Systema teaches you nothing.

I've seen Systema instructors do the one-inch punch at seminars and I do know what you're talking about. What do you think that is? Stop being a dumbass, seriously.