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mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:21:57

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can someone explaine the phenotypes of each. what traits thy supply

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:34:16

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Err.....

I can tell you things like, widow's peak is a recessive trait, brown hair and brown eyes are a dominant trait, things like that, but I get the feeling that's not what you want to know.

In terms of the genotype, look at it this way, Liquid snake had blonde (recessive) hair, Solid Snake has brown hair, that's why they figured Liquid to be the inferior clone.

Also, in the game they talk of the Human Genome project and have identfied over 60 "soldier" genes. They basically copied that genetic code into his clones.

Rephrase your question or ask another one. Genetics as my favorite subject in university.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:35:31

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In terms of the genotype, look at it this way, Liquid snake had blonde (recessive) hair, Solid Snake has brown hair, that's why they figured Liquid to be the inferior clone.

This is exactly what I was thinking as to why Liquid assumed he was "recessive."

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:35:57

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but what makes liqud better than solid

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:37:31

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Snake received the "recessive" soldier gene. Liquid received the "dominant" soldier gene. Solidus was unaltered and came into being moments before the other two. He can therefore be called the most accurate replica of Big Boss, besides the sped-up aging, probably due to the cloning process itself.

Now, Ocelot refers to Solid Snake as being "inferior" to Liquid, although as the game proves, Solid is still the more skilful soldier regardless of his recessive/"inferior" genes.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:39:06

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Snake received the "recessive" soldier gene. Liquid received the "dominant" soldier gene. Solidus was unaltered and came into being moments before the other two. He can therefore be called the most accurate replica of Big Boss, besides the sped-up aging, probably due to the cloning process itself.

but what is that "recessive" gene. what is that "dominat" gene

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:39:07

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but what makes liqud better than solid

Solid Snake turned out to be the inferior clone, Liquid was the superior clone, Solidus was the striking balance of each. The mediator.

They used what was called the Super Baby Method, essentially, they were octuplets, and they killed of 5 of the babies so the environment of their development was suited to supply and develop 8 fetus' while they were only 3. This is also important to state because in twins and triplets, the babies ARE born smaller.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:40:46

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Snake received the "recessive" soldier gene. Liquid received the "dominant" soldier gene. Solidus was unaltered and came into being moments before the other two. He can therefore be called the most accurate replica of Big Boss, besides the sped-up aging, probably due to the cloning process itself.

but what is that "recessive" gene. what is that "dominat" gene

Geneitc code "these so called traits" govern things like introvertidness, outgoingness, how difficult you are, you're temperament.

The game tells us there exists several soldier genes that make you effective in combat. You're predisposition to tactics, strategizing, things like that.

They both have the traits, but they were stronger in Liquid than they were in Solid.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:40:47

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but what makes liqud better than solid

Solid Snake turned out to be the inferior clone, Liquid was the superior clone, Solidus was the striking balance of each. The mediator.

They used what was called the Super Baby Method, essentially, they were octuplets, and they killed of 5 of the babies so the environment of their development was suited to supply and develop 8 fetus' while they were only 3. This is also important to state because in twins and triplets, the babies ARE born smaller.

so is liquid stronger than solid

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:42:10

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but what makes liqud better than solid

Solid Snake turned out to be the inferior clone, Liquid was the superior clone, Solidus was the striking balance of each. The mediator.

They used what was called the Super Baby Method, essentially, they were octuplets, and they killed of 5 of the babies so the environment of their development was suited to supply and develop 8 fetus' while they were only 3. This is also important to state because in twins and triplets, the babies ARE born smaller.

so is liquid stronger than solid

Yes. Liquid was the better warrior. Which is why it's important to understand that Solid Snake beat him. It may also have to do with why Liquid was affected by FoxDie first. If the code was told to kill the Snakes on the genetic level, and they are identical, obviously, Liquid would die first because the traits were "stronger" within him.

They were both set to random variables.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:42:21

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Snake received the "recessive" soldier gene. Liquid received the "dominant" soldier gene. Solidus was unaltered and came into being moments before the other two. He can therefore be called the most accurate replica of Big Boss, besides the sped-up aging, probably due to the cloning process itself.

but what is that "recessive" gene. what is that "dominat" gene

Geneitc code "these so called traits" govern things like introvertidness, outgoingness, how difficult you are, you're temperament.

The game tells us there exists several soldier genes that make you effective in combat. You're predisposition to tactics, strategizing, things like that.

They both have the traits, but they were stronger in Liquid than they were in Solid.

that explains alot. (i have not played the first game. STILL trying to track it down

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:43:50

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Just think of it this way if it's so confusing: the "dominant" soldier gene in Liquid is a "recessive" soldier gene in Solid, so the way it seems is that Liquid would inherit more of the abilities of the strongest soldier than Solid.

Edit: oh, no wonder. Get MGS1.

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If the code was told to kill the Snakes on the genetic level, and they are identical, obviously, Liquid would die first because the traits were "stronger" within him.

Excellent explanation.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:45:21

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Just think of it this way if it's so confusing: the "dominant" soldier gene in Liquid is a "recessive" soldier gene in Solid, so the way it seems is that Liquid would inherit more of the abilities of the strongest soldier than Solid.

Edit: oh, no wonder. Get MGS1.

where can i get it (besides the essental collection)

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 13:46:38

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the funney thing is ressesive does not nesserly mean worse.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 14:39:27

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the funney thing is ressesive does not nesserly mean worse.

Yeah it doesn't. But think about it in this context: dominant soldier gene, recessive soldier gene. What sounds more desirable? The dominant soldier gene is more prominent than the recessive one compared to the Snake's other genes, essentially.

I personally have MGS: Integral for PC. I don't know where to find MGS1 besides the Collection though, sorry.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 15:00:30

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You two did a great job of explaining that, and since there isn't any recognition system on the forums, I shall hunt down your comments and give you a healthy dosage of bubbles

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 17:25:28

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but what makes liqud better than solid

Liquid can go into mcontainers easier and it fits the object in which you put it it, while solids just maintain shape.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 17:29:36

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but what makes liqud better than solid

Liquid can go into mcontainers easier and it fits the object in which you put it it, while solids just maintain shape.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 18:00:29

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nto mcontainers easier and it fits the object in which you put it it, while solids just

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but what makes liqud better than solid

Liquid can go into mcontainers easier and it fits the object in which you put it it, while solids just maintain shape.

I was being litteral.

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RE: mgs ressesive VS dominat traits - Apr.-12th-2008 19:27:20

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Good job at failure Battousai.

"I have fed my pupil to the wolves." (Seijuro Hiko)
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