Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed

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Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM ( #1 )
http://gamingbolt.com/wii...led-slower-than-ps3360

"Well-known hacker Marcan, who played a part in hacking the PS3, has found out the clock speed of the Wii U. It’s surprising how slow it is, and I’m actually having troubles even thinking that Nintendo went with something like that. It’s a well known fact that the PS3′s Cell and Xbox 360′s Xenon run at 3.0 GHZ each per core, but the Wii U CPU runs at 1.243125 GHz per core.
“It’s a Three PowerPC 750 type cores (similar to Wii’s Broadway, but more cache),” tweetedMarcan.
One interesting thing he has revealed is that the Wii U is easier to hack, akin to the Wii. He tweeted that they are “calling the WiiU security processor the Starbuck (vs. Starlet on Wii). And it seems to be about equally vulnerable, too" 
Ouch, so its pretty much 3 x Wii Broadway CPU taped together, just a tad higher clocked. Logical as the Wii games aren't emulated, but they just run on one core. So far for the hope of Wii fanboys that it would have 4 cores. 

"Last week we had reported that the Wii U’s RAM  is a certain percentage lower than the PS3 and Xbox 360. You can read the article over here
"@digitalfoundry 1.243125GHz, exactly. 3 PowerPC 750 type cores (similar to Wii's Broadway, but more cache). GPU core at 549.999755MHz"

Ouch.

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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:50 PM ( #2 )
So why exactly does this guy have a bug up his butt about the WiiU? I've seen you post nothing but WiiU bashing or Vita crap.

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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:56 PM ( #3 )
And I've seen Wii fanboys seen do nothing else than shouting it would be a new i7 kind of CPU with 4 cores and bla bla bla faster than PS360 bla bla bla

We just know Nintendos true ways now, again using old hardware. It is the Wii story all over again. The Wii fanboys now like to coverup the true specs. 
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:03 PM ( #4 )
Yeah I personally don't care about the specs of the WiiU. It's a console. It outputs Nintendo games in HD, that's fine. They don't exactly have the most detailed realistic games and characters. 

But you know, this is why there are PCs. Because specs are actually important on them. 

While it would be cool to see this, don't necessarily need to.  Either way, again why do you have a bug up your butt with the WiiU? 




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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:05 PM ( #5 )
Nutsack

It’s a well known fact that the PS3′s Cell and Xbox 360′s Xenon run at 3.0 GHZ each per core, but the Wii U CPU runs at 1.243125 GHz per core.

... are... are they directly comparing clock speeds from different CPUs?
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:08 PM ( #6 )
ZombieNinjaPanda


Yeah I personally don't care about the specs of the WiiU. It's a console. It outputs Nintendo games in HD, that's fine. They don't exactly have the most detailed realistic games and characters. 

But you know, this is why there are PCs. Because specs are actually important on them. 

While it would be cool to see this, don't necessarily need to.  Either way, again why do you have a bug up your butt with the WiiU? 





It is a console alright. A this gen console. It matches the PS360.


So saying next gen arrives with the Xbox 8 and PSOrbis announced at E3 2013 was pretty much spot on all along.


You want Nintendo games in HD? You could have played these for years already. It is called the Dolphin emulator on PC, which can do 720p on average PC's and 1080p on high end PC's....


Again, this is a forum to discuss stuff about specific consoles. And these true specs are rather interesting. If you don't like it, don't react.
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:09 PM ( #7 )
it looks like the mart here doesnt like the WiiU.


All work and no play.. makes odion go something something
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:11 PM ( #8 )
FatOldMan


Nutsack

It’s a well known fact that the PS3′s Cell and Xbox 360′s Xenon run at 3.0 GHZ each per core, but the Wii U CPU runs at 1.243125 GHz per core.

... are... are they directly comparing clock speeds from different CPUs?



Thing is, the CPU doesn't have a new architecture either. It is a slightly modified Wii Broadway CPU. Which on its turn is slightly modified Gamecube architecture. And that is basically a Power Mac G3 architecture).


So it is an old architecture AND it is very low clocked....
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:14 PM ( #9 )
Nutsack


ZombieNinjaPanda


Yeah I personally don't care about the specs of the WiiU. It's a console. It outputs Nintendo games in HD, that's fine. They don't exactly have the most detailed realistic games and characters. 

But you know, this is why there are PCs. Because specs are actually important on them. 

While it would be cool to see this, don't necessarily need to.  Either way, again why do you have a bug up your butt with the WiiU? 




It is a console alright. A this gen console. It matches the PS360.


So saying next gen arrives with the Xbox 8 and PSOrbis announced at E3 2013 was pretty much spot on all along.


You want Nintendo games in HD? You could have played these for years already. It is called the Dolphin emulator on PC, which can do 720p on average PC's and 1080p on high end PC's....


Again, this is a forum to discuss stuff about specific consoles. And these true specs are rather interesting. If you don't like it, don't react.
 


This is a forum to get away from front page kiddies such as yourself and the console wars you propagate. Also protip: Next gen arrives when the next iteration of console comes out. It doesn't matter how butthurt you are about the WiiU, it's a next gen console because it's begun the next iteration. 


Jeez never should I expect logic and reasoning from a fanboy.







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Mart didn't get banned, why would it be him?
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:17 PM ( #10 )
Does the clocking speed matter that much?

I've read a couple of articles that says that clocking speed has become less important as we've progressed through the last decade.



Nutsack has made a thread about a valid piece of news. Nothing wrong with that.
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:19 PM ( #11 )
redDevil87


Does the clock speed matter that much?

I've read a couple of articles that says that clocking speed has become less important as we've progressed through the last decade.



That would make sense IF the CPU would have a new architecture. But as just said, it is a slightly modified Wii Broadway CPU, which was basically an overclocked Gamecube CPU, which is a Mac G3 architecture. Stuff is ancient.
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:20 PM ( #12 )
Nutsack


FatOldMan


Nutsack

It’s a well known fact that the PS3′s Cell and Xbox 360′s Xenon run at 3.0 GHZ each per core, but the Wii U CPU runs at 1.243125 GHz per core.

... are... are they directly comparing clock speeds from different CPUs?



Thing is, the CPU doesn't have a new architecture either. It is a slightly modified Wii Broadway CPU. Which on its turn is slightly modified Gamecube architecture. And that is basically a Power Mac G3 architecture).


So it is an old architecture AND it is very low clocked....

That doesn't justify the comparison. You've only showed that the architecture between the Nintendo consoles didn't change. That doesn't mean that you can compare clock speeds between the WiiU and 360/PS3.


Really, what you're saying is that a 500hp truck will be faster than a 300hp sedan... and you're justifying the comparison because the engine in the sedan hasn't changed much since the last iteration.

You could be right, but you also could be wrong. There's nothing conclusive.
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:23 PM ( #13 )
FatOldMan


Nutsack


FatOldMan


Nutsack

It’s a well known fact that the PS3′s Cell and Xbox 360′s Xenon run at 3.0 GHZ each per core, but the Wii U CPU runs at 1.243125 GHz per core.

... are... are they directly comparing clock speeds from different CPUs?



Thing is, the CPU doesn't have a new architecture either. It is a slightly modified Wii Broadway CPU. Which on its turn is slightly modified Gamecube architecture. And that is basically a Power Mac G3 architecture).


So it is an old architecture AND it is very low clocked....

That doesn't justify the comparison. You've only showed that the architecture between the Nintendo consoles didn't change. That doesn't mean that you can compare clock speeds between the WiiU and 360/PS3.


Really, what you're saying is that a 500hp truck will be faster than a 300hp sedan... and you're justifying the comparison because the engine in the sedan hasn't changed much since the last iteration.

You could be right, but you also could be wrong. There's nothing conclusive.
 


No, but what I am saying is that the CPU's architecture is old AND it is a lot lower clocked than for example the 360 CPU.

The 360 PowerPC triple core 3.2 Ghz CPU has an architecture that in its basic development is not as ancient as a constantly modified Mac G3 architecture AND it is higher clocked in Ghz.

That WiiU CPU is just horrible, really bad.


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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:27 PM ( #14 )



From the guy's twitter who's busting the WiiU open
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:30 PM ( #15 )
Who cares? Certainly not the average consumer. If the games are good, what the hell is the problem?


N4G Adventure Part 1 - screw it
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:30 PM ( #16 )
Oh sweet, so the guy who hacked the WiiU already negated Nutsack's arguments from the outset. 
I was just wasting my time then.
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:34 PM ( #17 )
Yup and that is why several gamedevs have said the WiiU has a 'horrible, slow CPU'...
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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:51 PM ( #18 )
redDevil87


Does the clocking speed matter that much?

I've read a couple of articles that says that clocking speed has become less important as we've progressed through the last decade.



Nutsack has made a thread about a valid piece of news. Nothing wrong with that.



Everyone knows how much I hate Call of Duty and bash it all the time. This is akin to me making thread after thread bashing call of duty. It gets old.

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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:48 PM ( #19 )
Wait whats that...did you say...



Wait...



I cant...



Hear..You...



Too... much



 games...



To give...a crap...



About your.......specs


3DS/DS >>>>Vita/PSP

Games over specs




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Re:Weak WiiU CPU and GPU specs finally revealed - Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:00 PM ( #20 )
All of those Wiiu/3DS games are lame, if you happen to like baby games then good for you. Doesn't mean they are better than what's o Sony platforms, grow up.

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