IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again?

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IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:33 AM ( #1 )
Sony: So-net entertainment to be wholly-owned unit TOKYO--Sony Corp. said Tuesday that it will make So-net Entertainment Corp. a wholly owned subsidiary through a stock swap effective Jan. 1. The Japanese electronics and entertainment giant has already boosted its stake in the Internet access service provider to 95.95% through a tender offer between Aug. 10 and Sept. 20. But it will conduct a stock swap to obtain all issued shares in So-net. Under the deal, one So-net share will be exchanged for 706 Sony shares. As a result, So-net's shares will be delisted from the Tokyo Stock Exchange Dec. 26.
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:39 AM ( #2 )
  With the restructuring that Sony is doing Company Wide, and the Downgrade from Fitch, and maybe the other Credit Rating Agency's to further downgrade Sony Stock, Could Sony decide to purchase their Stock in a buy back and make what is left of Sony as a company delisted from the Stock exchange and make it a 100% private owned company again? could Sony Take Playstation Private?
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:40 AM ( #3 )
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:06 AM ( #4 )
I feel like you're writing in another language because I really don't understand any of this. XD
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:09 PM ( #5 )
wishingW3L


I feel like you're writing in another language because I really don't understand any of this. XD



oh, ok what this means is that Sony took the SFI's  SO-NET and took it completely over, but instead of allowing just anyone to buy Stock, you cannot buy any stock in this new company. Sony owns it 100% outright and will not be offering any stock purchase into this part of the company. And since this will in effect remove it off the stock exchange thus there will be in effect no other companies, or other's outside of Sony themselves with no stake or say so into this company.


If Sony starts doing that with every arm of their company that shows profit and get's rid of  any and every non profit or toxic assets, in effect Sony could take The  entire company Private. On one hand Sony would in effect be a much smaller company, With the effect of Running the new much smaller Company, Sony could offset their Debt, outright by paying the credit debt back an in effect "Cash out" of the Stock Market. by doing this Sony would have less Money to go into their company, but vast reduction of overhead, and less debt for Sony as a company. It also means less effect on their company value in a non static market such as the stock market. It would provide more stability for their Company instead of the problems that can effect their company while its a public traded company.


In Effect , no stock market perception downgrading their value of their company based on Trends in the  stock Market.
It would be based on the Assets, and Profit generated per sales Q: with low debt, to No debt at all which would determine the  value of the Company, instead of the stock market trading determining the value of the company.


If this is what direction Kaz may take their other Assets, Such as Sony Mobile, Playstation, Medical etc. any profit generating section of their company and off leads the other parts that is not like the TV section. than Sony will be Much smaller from now on, but on the same token the Company will be less effected in the Market in view of their sales vs another companies sales per Quarter. As long as their is Profit generated they could have less problems getting loans and keeping the company's Ability to change investment and development much faster due to being much smaller company with less over head and Loss generating products.

This may be the start of Sony CEO's themselves taking a more pessimistic and grounded View of  how they will run the company going forward, and less about the  Sony engineer's have such control of the R&D as they have had in the past.

Drastic reduction on spending. for every part of their company, but on the same token more narrowed and focused R&D and Investment in their future projects.

This is quite the change from the way Sony has been ran in the past.
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:02 PM ( #6 )
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:44 PM ( #7 )
Do you have stock in Sony, yes or no. You're the equivalent of a viral marketer.

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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:04 PM ( #8 )
ZombieNinjaPanda


Do you have stock in Sony, yes or no. You're the equivalent of a viral marketer.



No i have no stock, i have no ties to Sony at all, i am just posting information good or bad that comes out and give my opinion on the news. noticed what i posted here


http://forums.n4g.com/Son...ystation-m1099171.aspx


All im doing is posting the info and commenting on the news.




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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:30 PM ( #9 )
joeorc


ZombieNinjaPanda


Do you have stock in Sony, yes or no. You're the equivalent of a viral marketer.



No i have no stock, i have no ties to Sony at all, i am just posting information good or bad that comes out and give my opinion on the news. noticed what i posted here


http://forums.n4g.com/Son...ystation-m1099171.aspx


All im doing is posting the info and commenting on the news.



Yes, but you only post sony, and you only post about financial topics.

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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 4:04 PM ( #10 )
ZombieNinjaPanda


joeorc


ZombieNinjaPanda


Do you have stock in Sony, yes or no. You're the equivalent of a viral marketer.



No i have no stock, i have no ties to Sony at all, i am just posting information good or bad that comes out and give my opinion on the news. noticed what i posted here


http://forums.n4g.com/Son...ystation-m1099171.aspx


All im doing is posting the info and commenting on the news.



Yes, but you only post sony, and you only post about financial topics.
 


that not true at all, you was in other post's in the forums and it was not all about , Fiinancial news, and just because i post that info that has bearing on their entertainment part of their company and i comment on the news im a viral marketer.?


Look in my other post's in this forum, i have posted info on every one of these companies, im not tied to anyone, hell i post in the technology part of N4G.


I POST News and information and i comment on that new's and its not always about Sony when i post stuff! 

Hell you were just in a recent thread i made about the direction publisher's are taking with Game development

http://forums.n4g.com/Got...o-Mobile-m1099469.aspx




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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:25 PM ( #11 )
ZombieNinjaPanda


Yes, but you only post sony, and you only post about financial topics.
 


Do you really want to hear about Nintendo and M$ meeting their quarterly expectations? I don't. 


And I'm not understanding the importance of SO NET to SONY

Welcome to next gen:



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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:30 PM ( #12 )
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ZombieNinjaPanda


Yes, but you only post sony, and you only post about financial topics.
 


Do you really want to hear about Nintendo and M$ meeting their quarterly expectations? I don't. 


And I'm not understanding the importance of SO NET to SONY



Nope. The point I'm trying to make here is that most of us aren't exactly in the stock market for these companies or on their payroll, so what's the point in posting all this financial information all the time?

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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:28 AM ( #13 )
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NeverEnding1989


ZombieNinjaPanda


Yes, but you only post sony, and you only post about financial topics.
 


Do you really want to hear about Nintendo and M$ meeting their quarterly expectations? I don't. 


And I'm not understanding the importance of SO NET to SONY



Nope. The point I'm trying to make here is that most of us aren't exactly in the stock market for these companies or on their payroll, so what's the point in posting all this financial information all the time?
 


I am only posting information related to the Gaming section, So-Net "Entertainment" inc. is a network!! in other words why that is important, because its related to the Gaming aspects. Look i do not come into your Posts and are out right confrontational about my posts, if you do not like it ignore my Posts. The fact your here must mean you a: just want to argue, or B: your interested in what im posting. im getting the feeling you are leaning toward A:. And if that is the Case, than that's just you. if you are not going to be respectful than im asking you to leave this thread and let other people who are interested continue to post.


other than that i do not know what to tell you.


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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Thursday, December 06, 2012 1:20 PM ( #14 )
NeverEnding1989


ZombieNinjaPanda


Yes, but you only post sony, and you only post about financial topics.
 


Do you really want to hear about Nintendo and M$ meeting their quarterly expectations? I don't. 

 


Do you want to hear about Sony not meeting their quarterly expectations... on any of their products?  I don't really care personally.


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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:26 PM ( #15 )

The Japanese electronics and entertainment giant has already boosted its stake in the Internet access service provi
joeorc


wishingW3L


I feel like you're writing in another language because I really don't understand any of this. XD



oh, ok what this means is that Sony took the SFI's  SO-NET and took it completely over, but instead of allowing just anyone to buy Stock, you cannot buy any stock in this new company. Sony owns it 100% outright and will not be offering any stock purchase into this part of the company. And since this will in effect remove it off the stock exchange thus there will be in effect no other companies, or other's outside of Sony themselves with no stake or say so into this company.


If Sony starts doing that with every arm of their company that shows profit and get's rid of  any and every non profit or toxic assets, in effect Sony could take The  entire company Private. On one hand Sony would in effect be a much smaller company, With the effect of Running the new much smaller Company, Sony could offset their Debt, outright by paying the credit debt back an in effect "Cash out" of the Stock Market. by doing this Sony would have less Money to go into their company, but vast reduction of overhead, and less debt for Sony as a company. It also means less effect on their company value in a non static market such as the stock market. It would provide more stability for their Company instead of the problems that can effect their company while its a public traded company.


In Effect , no stock market perception downgrading their value of their company based on Trends in the  stock Market.
It would be based on the Assets, and Profit generated per sales Q: with low debt, to No debt at all which would determine the  value of the Company, instead of the stock market trading determining the value of the company.


If this is what direction Kaz may take their other Assets, Such as Sony Mobile, Playstation, Medical etc. any profit generating section of their company and off leads the other parts that is not like the TV section. than Sony will be Much smaller from now on, but on the same token the Company will be less effected in the Market in view of their sales vs another companies sales per Quarter. As long as their is Profit generated they could have less problems getting loans and keeping the company's Ability to change investment and development much faster due to being much smaller company with less over head and Loss generating products.

This may be the start of Sony CEO's themselves taking a more pessimistic and grounded View of  how they will run the company going forward, and less about the  Sony engineer's have such control of the R&D as they have had in the past.

Drastic reduction on spending. for every part of their company, but on the same token more narrowed and focused R&D and Investment in their future projects.

This is quite the change from the way Sony has been ran in the past.





well, thanks for the explanation for dummies. I haven't read it yet cus I'm gonna play some DQ8 now but I swear that your efforts will not be in vain, I'm gonna read it later.  It's always good to know what's going on with the only gaming company I give a F* about (from a hardware perspective of-course since I like many other game developers too).   
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Re:IS Sony Set to take their Company Private Again? - Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:20 AM ( #16 )
  no problem, im interested in all three companies direction for their gaming part of their companies. I like to be informed of their directions in the Gaming Market, mainly because im in the game design and theory aspect of this market, but also Im a Gamer!, Play them and Design and Make them.

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