Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !!

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Ranma1

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Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:08 PM ( #1 )

My proposition is: to block used games for 6 months i.e if you buy a game new, you have to wait 6 months after its launch before it can be used/played on another PS4.

This will tremendously increase revenue for developers (good thing) while still giving gamers the chance to sell it used some time later.

In the long term its a good idea, because if developers make more money, more games get made.
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:12 PM ( #2 )
Nobody likes Final Fantasy anymore.
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:13 PM ( #3 )
Nocturnus32


Nobody likes Final Fantasy anymore.

I know. but suprisingly, this thread isnt about Final Fantasy.


I dont even like Final Fantasy anymore
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:16 PM ( #4 )
Six months? You're taking a gamer's patience lightly. These are the same dumbasses who will wait years for a game but bitch and moan when DLC takes too long. 
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:21 PM ( #5 )
I never buy used so I don't mind, but it sure would suck for those who do.  Anyway, I tend to lend my games to friends and I still gather from time to time to play The Show, so it would suck if the owner had to take his console with him to be able to do so.

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:30 PM ( #6 )
This is why we can't have nice things. Gamers are all too willing to throw away any shred of "rights" they have as consumers.
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:34 PM ( #7 )
I never trade games so this won't affect me.


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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:43 PM ( #8 )
Corporations have really brainwashed people, it's unbelievable. 

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 6:51 PM ( #9 )
Ranma1
My proposition is: to block used games for 6 months i.e if you buy a game new, you have to wait 6 months after its launch before it can be used/played on another PS4. 
1.  You mean on another PSN/XBL ID I hope. The patent doesn't specify by console device but by PSN ID.

2.  Won't matter in the end.  The games that have that devotion already get the game sales.  CoD, Halo, etc.  People will just wait longer or overlook it for something else that is equivalent but can be sold sooner.  

3.  Unless this becomes an industry standard (a la Steam), it will be seen as a massive negative to Sony and therefore they likely won't do it on their home console if the competition doesn't.  Not to say it's not possible, but you know Microsoft will have a field day advertising the heck out of the fact that players have more control over the games they buy on the next 360 than the PS4.

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 7:17 PM ( #10 )
This is the most ridiculous thing ever, despite my love for Ken & the PS brand i will not stand for this.

This will completely eliminate any game/franchise that is not an FPS or a Shooter.

I will honestly ditch Sony and make me a PC. for good.
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 7:27 PM ( #11 )
Kon


I never trade games so this won't affect me.



To trade games, one must first buy. ;)

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 7:31 PM ( #12 )
Skv007


Kon


I never trade games so this won't affect me.



To trade games, one must first buy. ;)



If you know what he Means. :P
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 7:37 PM ( #13 )
Megaton


This is why we can't have nice things. Gamers are all too willing to throw away any shred of "rights" they have as consumers.



You already gave your "rights" away when you decided to make sweet sweet love to Steam.

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 9:37 PM ( #14 )
I came into this thread expecting something either extremely stupid, trollish, or fanboyish, but this plan actually wouldn't bother me. Sounds about right.
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 10:28 PM ( #15 )
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Megaton


This is why we can't have nice things. Gamers are all too willing to throw away any shred of "rights" they have as consumers.



You already gave your "rights" away when you decided to make sweet sweet love to Steam.




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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 11:14 PM ( #16 )
Not a terrible idea. Better than Sony's patents, that's for sure.

A better idea IMO is to price games on a sliding scale. I'd happily pay for a Halo or Elder Scrolls game for $100 because I easily get 100 hours of play time out of it. Games that are 10 hours long and have no multiplayer should be significantly less than $60. 

I've got plenty of money for video games, but I can't stomach paying the same price for Dishonored, which will net me maybe 20hrs of play time, as I pay for Halo 4, which will give me upwards of 300hrs of play time. Another example would be Bioshock. That's one of my favourite games so far this generation. Rented it, beat it twice, never played it again. And I'm not advocating tacked on multiplayer, the game simply needs replayability. How that is achieved is up to the creative mnds of the developers. 

I've saved hundreds of dollars this gen by supported developers who I believe are deserving of my money and by buying used. I hope M$ and Nintendo don't follow SONY.

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 11:17 PM ( #17 )
LOL NO. terrible idea. Ford doesn't block me from selling their car if I don't feel like keeping it anymore, why the hell should games do it? It's my property, I bought it. If developers wanna make people keep their games or pay full price, they should start putting out content that is worth the price.


Rage_S90
 

Corporations have really brainwashed people, it's unbelievable.  
 


This and what Megaton said. It's amazing how idiotic gamers have become. The scary part is that these are the people who know **** about games. What about the "bros" who only play COD or Fifa?


@Neverending

A dollar per hour? Nah...because developers can just make repetitive boring fetch quests that would artificially lengthen the time of the game without putting any real content. Bam, there's your 100 hours for 100 dollars. 
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 11:50 PM ( #18 )
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@Neverending

A dollar per hour? Nah...because developers can just make repetitive boring fetch quests that would artificially lengthen the time of the game without putting any real content. Bam, there's your 100 hours for 100 dollars. 



Nope. I ball parked 100 hours. There obviously needs to be quality...

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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Friday, January 04, 2013 11:55 PM ( #19 )
Just curious, but how much do you actually get back when you give used games to places like GameStop? If you got a $60 and returned it two weeks later, how much would you get?
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Re:Why blocking used games is an AMAZING idea !! - Saturday, January 05, 2013 12:03 AM ( #20 )
Bit of Devil's Advocate.
ZombieNinjaPanda
LOL NO. terrible idea. Ford doesn't block me from selling their car if I don't feel like keeping it anymore, why the hell should games do it? It's my property, I bought it. If developers wanna make people keep their games or pay full price, they should start putting out content that is worth the price.
The car comparison, as well as non-software-based retail products, is a horrible one to make.  You don't own the software, just the medium upon which it is located.   And the cost of the car primarily goes back to Ford, not the dealership, which makes next to nothing (~$23/car sold in 2011) except on warranties and repairs.  This is not true of software-based products.  Far from.


Also, no one will need to keep a game for longer than a year considering that the same will be released in the following year unless they already keep their games.  

We don't get movies that everyone wants to see every week, we're not going to get 90+ scored AAA games every week of the year either.  Don't you think that this view is a bit 'idealistic' rather than 'realistic'?

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While it's cool to have the idea that what you bought is yours to do with as you please, TV, movie, and book media has moved to digital distribution for the same reasons as the issues that video games are facing now.  It's unlikely that this move won't continue, as well as attempts to reduce used game sales which have a much higher and faster rate of turn over than the other medias listed here.


Pandamobile
 Just curious, but how much do you actually get back when you give used games to places like GameStop? If you got a $60 and returned it two weeks later, how much would you get? 
 $10-15 on average.  As high as $20-25 for a major release titles like Halo 4 or CoDBO2 in their first few weeks (the major sellers).  And, most of the time, it's store credit., not cash.  Especially on those higher return deals.  They turn around and sell the used copies for $5 less than new price.

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