could the PS4 also be a steambox?

the PS3 allowed Valve an entry into a living room console, what would the evolution of said entry would be the next step?

Not only would Valve be able to licence their Valve box to other Companies, but what harm would it be for Sony's box to also be one itself? 

revenue share! the key would just be like it already is moving toward anyway, what about the Valve box getting the Playstation Mobile certification?

Valve was able to already gather some support for steam on Sony's box already, Sony concentrating on network and services is a big point for their drive forward. Having a revenue share agreement would be just like pretty much agreements they have with Netflix.

example:

Netflix CEO interested in adding Sony movie content
Netflix Inc wants to bid for movies from Sony Corp to add to its online streaming service alongside films from Walt Disney Co, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings said on Wednesday.
Speaking to analysts after the company's quarterly earnings report, Hastings said his appetite for securing exclusive rights to Sony movies after they leave theaters was "just like it was for Disney. It's strong."


http://biz.thestar.com.my...80721&sec=business

a Move with Valve may net both companies some very good Profit!

No

why so quick to say No?

 Sony and Valve could very well go into an agreement such as this:

think about PSN+ revenue share! with Valve! in exchange Valve exclusives on the PS4 only along with Valve's steambox! if PS4 was to get HalfLife 3 along with the steambox Valve would still be able to sell the software but now on also a big three game console and make not just profit but also revenue share on top with PSN+ !

Rumoured PS4 specs suggest it wouldn't even be able to run the equivalent of SimCity 3000. I wouldn't count on playing anything from Steambox. 

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joeorc


why so quick to say No?

Sony and Valve could very well go into an agreement such as this:

think about PSN+ revenue share! with Valve! in exchange Valve exclusives on the PS4 only along with Valve's steambox! if PS4 was to get HalfLife 3 along with the steambox Valve would still be able to sell the software but now on also a big three game console and make not just profit but also revenue share on top with PSN+ !

Who said the PS4 wouldn't get Half Life 3? It might. It just won't be a Steam Box. Is the PS4 running Linux? Can I install Windows on the PS4 if I want to? Can I mod the internals if I want to? The Steam Box is a plethora of Linux computer systems shaped like a console, not a proprietary console made by Sony Corporation.

I would love to see the PS4 as a base model for an upgradeable platform with hardware designed specifically in multiples of the base model to best take advantage of optimized code for the base model, but I highly doubt even valve will be able to design hardware frequently and powerful enough to keep the PC fanatics at bay and would ultimately cut into profits for both companies as you would be splitting the profit of 1 game between 2 companies. I would love to see my PS multiplat collection just show up on my Steam account some day and have both friends lists available for cross play. While it could theoretically work if they hold enough market share, I really doubt they would go through with it as it might be considered a monopoly situation particularly in terms of hardware. Anyway it seems that valve invested in a company called Xi3 or similar for their hardware, so the chances of this are already slim to none.

you know, I never thought about that!   


But then again, when you think about it, Steam games would have to be ported so it wouldn't be so different than Sony just putting the games up on their own store... We'd be missing on the sales though.

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joeorc


why so quick to say No?

Sony and Valve could very well go into an agreement such as this:

think about PSN+ revenue share! with Valve! in exchange Valve exclusives on the PS4 only along with Valve's steambox! if PS4 was to get HalfLife 3 along with the steambox Valve would still be able to sell the software but now on also a big three game console and make not just profit but also revenue share on top with PSN+ !

Who said the PS4 wouldn't get Half Life 3? It might. It just won't be a Steam Box. Is the PS4 running Linux? Can I install Windows on the PS4 if I want to? Can I mod the internals if I want to? The Steam Box is a plethora of Linux computer systems shaped like a console, not a proprietary console made by Sony Corporation.

 


that is why there is thing's like virtual machines, remember streaming Technology is just now getting to be a driver in all three main box'es moving forward!


IF, this is a big If, the next PS3 is a SOC x86 chip like the rumor's already stated, a STEAMBOX virtual machines Application could indeed be made, who said anything about installing another OS? you do not have to have that functionality in order to be a steambox, the PC standard is not a steambox based on what kinda OS it has, its a steambox based on the software infrastructure! its a platform agnostic approach! just like Sony's Playstation Mobile development platform, its also platform agnostic in its design. I would not be so quick to count this out, the simple reason right now out of the big three only Sony has let Valve have a foot in the door with Valves steambox software infrastructure!


 Not Nintendo, or Microsoft have done the same.
Also, this is not out of the realm of an idea i would imagine because:


even the 


playstation 1 linux kernel loader


playstation 2 linux kernel loader


playstation 3 linux kernel loader


playstation Vita also has a  linux kernel loader


every Playstation has had one and virtual machines are  just as much a viable option to use as anything else. Now not every game of course but with streaming technology improving we may see more parity of a game centric streaming game service added to playstation 4 can be such a start, adding Valve as yet another such added services would or could not be out right a No! I am of course not saying it will for a fact, i am saying this could very well even be a feb 20th Announcement!

NeverEnding1989


Rumoured PS4 specs suggest it wouldn't even be able to run the equivalent of SimCity 3000. I wouldn't count on playing anything from Steambox. 

CPU with 8 cores running at 1.6GHZ, 4GB of unified GDDR5 ram and an HD 7970M equivalent is anything but weak, especially when it comes to a closed platform.  Are you trollin'?  

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No...Really come on, Valve would be ****ing on the Steambox by Giving Sony access to a Steambox and Ps4 in one. Super retarded business move. No one in their right mind would buy a steambox over a playstation

Irishguy95


No...Really come on, Valve would be ****ing on the Steambox by Giving Sony access to a Steambox and Ps4 in one. Super retarded business move. No one in their right mind would buy a steambox over a playstation

 


that would be like no one would buy one PC over another, or one smartphone or Tablet over another!


Look we know very little about the steambox effort Valve is heading with, for all we know its a licence Application for any Hardware vendor that passes QA:


Just because the Valve Box gets released does exactly what for existing Valve steam user's with just a PC?


Valve box is more than just a single type of box or platform! its composed up of multiple platforms, if you have not noticed all three big console companies are heading in that very type of direction. a more Agnostic way of game console's in the market now, i mean Sony has a very own Music service and a video service but also offer's Hulu+ and Netflix, So offer Valve's steam box may not be as big a stretch as some may think it would be.

Ok....but if I could play a steambox games on a Ps4 there would be no hope of me buying a Steambox. Not point imo.

Irishguy95


Ok....but if I could play a steambox games on a Ps4 there would be no hope of me buying a Steambox. Not point imo.

 


think about that for a sec. without the large investment of Playstation and just Valve Ip's only on the box would it be cheaper if the box had no playstation?


yes, but by Valve making the playstation 4 a certified box, how does that hinder Valve from selling software?


its about the software, it always is, the hardware is a means to an end. the Rumor even stated it was Valve was looking at many types of Boxes to be a steam box. Steam has always been built on a Agnostic design, why would Valve change that very profit driving formula? If you have not noticed both Sony and Microsoft have 3rd party applications on the boxes that give a direct challenge to their 1st party offering's, if that was such of importance of "the 1st party first" idea is why offer those 3rd party offer's as much support? Simple it all boils down to content sales!


if both Sony and Valve can make a mint off of it they both would! Not saying they will outright do it, im saying Sony right now has shown an more openness to do so with Playstation as a platform.


Steamworks, Playstation Mobile, Play ,create,share, playstation Home, Free 2 Play!


Sony is not as walled garden with Playstation as many seem to think.

No, that's silly. Forget about hardware compatibility issues, Sony's not going to allow a competitor's marketplace onto their console alongside the PSN store.

Can't wait till the 20th.

Megaton


No, that's silly. Forget about hardware compatibility issues, Sony's not going to allow a competitor's marketplace onto their console alongside the PSN store.

really: go to some of the movie app's on the PS3 you can purchse TV eps. or Movies off of their Application store! and that is not on the PSN store, they are their own online movie rental and purchase store outside of Sony's PSN!


So you may say but that's not the same as Game's, really? think about it revenue sharing!

Google Already does this very thing already. Saying Sony would not do that is really Moot when Sony already is doing such with other Entertainment content!!

I mean already with Playstation Mobile is not just on the PSVita, its also not on devices which has the Android Playstore all on the same device.

take note of this for instance:

"Hastings said his appetite for securing exclusive rights to Sony movies after they leave theaters was "just like it was for Disney. It's strong."


what is the #1 living room Hardware to view Netflix...that's right the PS3, you do not think Sony can leverage their content on Netflix to gain some money, on a service that is not Sony owned, but yet is right on the PS3!

LOL... I think you have no concept of steam market.

The steam sales will dwarf PSN, the only thing that would sell on the PSN would be the exclusives. 

flip-it3


LOL... I think you have no concept of steam market.

The steam sales will dwarf PSN, the only thing that would sell on the PSN would be the exclusives. 

did i even say that PSN sales would be larger than steam? No, look and read closely what i am saying, Steam's Platform is Agnostic, have the Playstation 4 as yet another Steam client how does that effect PSN? really PSN client is still a PSN client, that's like saying why sell a 3rd party game on PSN? you seem to be concentrating on this as a PSN V's Steam. that could be any service, Sony SEN vs Netflix. Content is sold to the consumer if the consumer wants it. thus if Valve's steam client is on the PS3 how does that effect selling PSN game's ? what steam sell's more? so what if the revenue sharing is there! it only helps the bottom line. Time of usage of a platform can be just as important as the sales of the content, Netflix on the ps3 is the #1 Movie Application used on in the living room by Netflix's own internal market number's that's even vs' PC IN THE LIVING ROOM. 


But yet Sony's own PS3 has its own video store!


its not just about only content sales its also about the time of usage of said product.

Irishguy95


Ok....but if I could play a steambox games on a Ps4 there would be no hope of me buying a Steambox. Not point imo.

Bingo.

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