Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games

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SonyStyled

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Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:06 AM ( #1 )
An odd statement i would imagine what youd be thinking. i mean how can someone hate IG? well ive got several reasons. maybe im being a little harsh, then again maybe not. to start off, im a big resistance fan. having them axe future development of the series really turned me off. but thats understandable. what really turned me off though is i feel like IG intended on leaving the resistance series for dead. yea they had an additional year of development time for R3, but at no point did they ever release a trailer that really would draw someones interest into the game. the trailers where kind of lackluster. even with E3, they had a horrible showing for the game. they made it look just like an average game. remember showed the game at E3, then fast forwarded the game by a few minutes saying the "ambush went wrong"? weak! lets just say its E3 showing certainly was no laviathan chicago encounter. but for those reasons i feel like IG intended on leaving the franchise for dead.

another is there announcement of fuse and going multiplatform. understandable from a buisiness perspective. but i feel like there relationship and attention torward AAA sony games has been shifted. if you havent noticed, each ratchet and clank game has scored worse and worse with each release. if they payed more attention to the series, wouldnt it be recieving better review scores? i feel like sony is now just an afterthought to them.

lastly, this is the nail in the coffin. i was playing R3 online about a year and a half ago. i went to sign in to the PSN the next day or so only to get a message saying my PSN ID has been banned or temporarily disbanded. ill called sony over it. they said my ID is permanently banned for reasons of it being inapropriate. my ID was badass-D. nobody i have spoken too has ever thought it was offensive, but some moderator from IG watching my game in R3 thought it was, and forwarded it to sony. i argued with sony over it for days, saying the definition of badass is someone with supirior strenth or skill. the ban would not be reversed. i was a %100 trophy hunter, 23 plats if i remember correctly. one plat including the BF:BC1 plat which is nearly impossibler to acheive. i put a lot of time and efforet to accumulate that trophy list. all of it gone. 

so i had had it with insomniac games. i will not be buying any of their games again in the future. R3 being my last. so do any of you guys have any hatred torward IG? or even a hatred torward another dev? share your story
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:29 AM ( #2 )
I know right damn Insomniac Games for not sticking with that mediocre Resistance and stale Ratchet & Clank franchises, and damn them for branching out their business how dare they do as they desire it's an utter complete outrage of the highest caliber.




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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:41 AM ( #3 )
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I know right damn Insomniac Games for not sticking with that mediocre Resistance and stale Ratchet & Clank franchises, and damn them for branching out their business how dare they do as they desire it's an utter complete outrage of the highest caliber.



Until A Crack in Time, the Ratchet and Clank franchise was fine, in fact ACIT was labeled as the best one by many fans, Insomniac's fault is continuing with the entries which followed, both of which were uninspired, tacky, and added nothing of value to the franchise, they should just stop , also,  the quality of their latest games is no where near that of their PSX, and PS2 ones, it has taken a major tumble.
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:45 AM ( #4 )
I have problems with publishers than I do developers... things like Micro transactions and 5 dollar horse armor and DRm that breaks games... 

As for insomnia games... I thought the first resistance was good  but they lost me on the 2nd and the 3rd did not even check it out...




That being said I know they can make awesome games..   and I hope they continue to do so no matter the system...  

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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:09 AM ( #5 )
They've lost relevance as far as I'm concerned after Spyro. Never liked the R&C series nor have I any interest in anything Resistance related.
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:16 AM ( #6 )
Not at all, IG has been stuck with Sony for too long. I'm glad they are getting out there, they have never been owned by Sony, so the exclusivity of their products made no sense business wise. 

If you are talking about Resistance, I personally think that 1>2>3.  R3 was the worst of the bunch, and it's not thta IG was TRYING to kill the franchise. Who in their right mind would want something that they have been working on for 2-3 years to fail?

R&C has been stale, hence the low scoring. They are still fun and great games, but it needs to change a lil' and do something risky once in awhile. 

I'm happy for IG for being able to stretch their legs, I wouldn't want them just stuck on two franchises or stuck with Sony -- not as a third party dev anyway. 

Advertising is not really up to them, they are teh developers, Sony does all the marketing for their published products. blame sony, not IG for the lack of Ads. Sony is def. not the victim here, they still own the franchise of Resistance, and will most likely continue the franchise (even if it just on the Vita)

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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:57 PM ( #7 )
Ninja Theory killed DMC. I hope they go bankruptcy and disappear. That developer are arrogance and destruction incarnated.
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:13 PM ( #8 )
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Ninja Theory killed DMC. I hope they go bankruptcy and disappear. That developer are arrogance and destruction incarnated.

Developer tries to make new, fresh take on series-  "...arrogance and destruction incarnated."

Developer makes a true sequel to the originals- "wow, now they're milking it."


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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:16 PM ( #9 )
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Ninja Theory killed DMC. I hope they go bankruptcy and disappear. That developer are arrogance and destruction incarnated.



And what exactly does this have to do with Insomniac? I know you've got an irrational hatred towards the new DmC and Ninja Theory, but it's probably more appropriate to keep that hatred in the DmC thread or Randomicity. 
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:26 PM ( #10 )

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so i had had it with insomniac games. i will not be buying any of their games again in the future. R3 being my last. so do any of you guys have any hatred torward IG? or even a hatred torward another dev? share your story 
 

I think it's a fair with the thread's topic

MattyG


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Ninja Theory killed DMC. I hope they go bankruptcy and disappear. That developer are arrogance and destruction incarnated.

Developer tries to make new, fresh take on series-  "...arrogance and destruction incarnated."

Developer makes a true sequel to the originals- "wow, now they're milking it."



Usually, I would agree with you for most franchises. But:





Real mature way to handle a reboot. 




How does a character flip that much? I don't think ANYONE wanted a dante w/ that personality.


The game-play isn't too bad, some of it's interesting/fresh. But it cost too much of the part of the game we loved. 

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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:34 PM ( #11 )
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Ninja Theory killed DMC. I hope they go bankruptcy and disappear. That developer are arrogance and destruction incarnated.

Developer tries to make new, fresh take on series-  "...arrogance and destruction incarnated."

Developer makes a true sequel to the originals- "wow, now they're milking it."



LOL. New? Yes. Fresh? No. It's their typical angsty crap called writing. But the writing and character is only the tip of the iceburg. The combat is what is downgraded in the game, and many fans of the series care solely about that, the combat.  The new character just added more fuel to the fire. 

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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:39 PM ( #12 )
Skv007

Real mature way to handle a reboot. 




That's really more British humor than anything else. It's perhaps culturally different from what Americans are used to, but I wouldn't call it immature. 
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:43 PM ( #13 )
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Skv007

Real mature way to handle a reboot. 




That's really more British humor than anything else. It's perhaps culturally different from what Americans are used to, but I wouldn't call it immature. 


To an American if it's not drier than Joan River's vagina then it can't be Britfag humor. 
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:44 PM ( #14 )
@Skv007 Where the hell did I say it was mature? I said it was different from the original, that's all. Don't put words in my mouth.

@ZNP Maybe fresh was a poor choice of word. I didn't mean "fresh" as in better, I just meant different from what they did 4 times before.


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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:53 PM ( #15 )
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@Skv007 Where the hell did I say it was mature? I said it was different from the original, that's all. Don't put words in my mouth. 

 


I never said that you called it mature? 
I was commenting on the fact that it was one of the worst reboots I've seen. And not exactly a "Fresh" take on the series. 


sjaakiejj
 

Skv007
 
Real mature way to handle a reboot.  


 

That's really more British humor than anything else. It's perhaps culturally different from what Americans are used to, but I wouldn't call it immature.  
 


"never in a million years"
A reboot making fun of the original.......... you know the only reason why you are getting to make the reboot is because the original was a hit.
I dn't see that as humor at all, more like an insult to DMC fanbase. 
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:02 PM ( #16 )
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MattyG
 

@Skv007 Where the hell did I say it was mature? I said it was different from the original, that's all. Don't put words in my mouth. 

 


I never said that you called it mature? 
I was commenting on the fact that it was one of the worst reboots I've seen. And not exactly a "Fresh" take on the series. 

Sorry, it just seemed like you were still responding to me with the video and that comment. Sorry I bit your head off.
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:41 PM ( #17 )
I don't especially like Ratchet and Clank. I feels like it used Sonic Adventure 2 as its inspiration which was a great game featuring an iconic character. So why would I need 2 less iconic new characters in sci-fi settings? If I want sci-fi, I get a game like Half Life 2 (which will do instead of Resistance as well) where it's a properly tense adventure, not a button mashing platform game.
 
The pinnacle of platform gaming to me was the games that Rare made on the N64 e.g. Banjo Kazooie. You had to think about it and they had classic platforming themes to them - ice world, desert, forest etc.
Of more modern series, I'd rather play Sly Cooper.
 
Insomniac clearly spend their time being students learning off what other people do. I don't want to play games made by students, I want to play games by teachers.
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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:33 PM ( #18 )
Sessler summed my issues pretty well w/ DmC



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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:52 PM ( #19 )
Ratchet & Clank has been very poor since the days of the PS2. I don't think it's anything to do with them not putting enough time into it, the series is just being milked something terrible now and there's nothing new, and barely anything remarkably fun in the newer games.

I don't really know about Resistance. But do you really regard Ratchet & Clank and Resistance as (or as possible) triple-A series?

As people have said above, IG have no actual deal with Sony so they have no obligation to stay with them, especially when they're probably the ones pushing them to keep making more and more games (I say this because of how series like God of War, LittleBigPlanet and Uncharted have been going).


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Re:Why Ive grown a hatred torward Insomniac Games - Saturday, March 16, 2013 4:22 PM ( #20 )
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Because I'm a Sony fanboy.

Fixed. 

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