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N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:39 PM ( #1 )
For the ill informed, Snowden is a former worker for the American Intelligence-Security Agency the NSA. He,before quitting, leaked a daunting amount of information that, in short, provides that the Agency has the capacity to tap any phone, social network  ect to gather highly private information on Americans as well as foreigners without the aid of legal warrant through services such as Verizon and many others. He also insist that the Agency has been doing so for a while.  He is held up in Russia atm. The US seeks to charge him with treason (punishable by death correct?) as he currently seeks asylum from any willing nation.

US says he endangered all americans with the leak as now our enemies can use such info.


What the League of gamers think?
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:10 PM ( #2 )
I say the U.S. should leave him alone imo

*grabs popcorn*
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:13 PM ( #3 )
Honestly his leak was something most Americans were already aware of, every government spies on it's citizens. Paranoia and a stupid public is the security any country needs to remain in power and not fall into obscurity of history at the hands of a civilian willful revolution.  



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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:31 PM ( #4 )
100% guarantee this gets made into a movie. 
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:46 PM ( #5 )
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100% guarantee this gets made into a movie. 


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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:57 PM ( #6 )
  I think he is a hero and more "American" than the mainstream media can possibly understand. Our media has become a joke.
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:01 PM ( #7 )
Everytime I hear someone call Snowden a traitor.  I think of this dark knight quote for some reason. "Because he's the hero that Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now... and so we'll hunt him... because he can take it... because he's not a hero...







The guy gave up a $200,000 year salary, his fiance, and his freedoms to educate the masses on this invasion of privacy and what does he get in return? 

Edit- I find it hilarious that when you go on the internet there is a sense that a majority of people's opinions is that he is not a traitor but Networks like FoxNews plaster him as a traitor. 




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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:18 PM ( #8 )
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Everytime I hear someone call Snowden a traitor.  I think of this dark knight quote for some reason. "Because he's the hero that Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now... and so we'll hunt him... because he can take it... because he's not a hero...







The guy gave up a $200,000 year salary, his fiance, and his freedoms to educate the masses on this invasion of privacy and what does he get in return? 

Edit- I find it hilarious that when you go on the internet there is a sense that a majority of people's opinions is that he is not a traitor but Networks like FoxNews plaster him as a traitor. 






That's a really cool way of thinking about it. At the same time (genuine question), why should I care about government surveillance? What am I doing that makes me more interesting than 300 million other Americans?
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:18 PM ( #9 )
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Honestly his leak was something most Americans were already aware of, every government spies on it's citizens. Paranoia and a stupid public is the security any country needs to remain in power and not fall into obscurity of history at the hands of a civilian willful revolution.  



Well, I wouldn't consider every civilian that doesn't agree with your lesser of two evil logic, naive. Not every  protest  should be seen as an act of treason or trying to overthrow you government. History has proven a lot of reform and change does occur. 
 
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:39 PM ( #10 )
Don't care.
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 12:23 AM ( #11 )
I'm not American, but I've kept up to date with what he did and such. Fact of the matter is, the American government isn't denying it and they are hunting him like a dog, and countries are split on whether to help him or not. Some countries are falling into the same **** they always do(looking at you France and your obsession with being the world's bitch). 
In addition, I honestly can't stand the United States politics any more. They keep trying to pass regulations that involve more than the U.S. citizens. I understand some laws pertaining to the Internet, but most of them are utter bull****. 


All and all, he shouldn't be treated the way he does; especially given the worldwide backlash. Glad some governments WANT to help him and openly have denounced the U.S.. Hopefully, one day, he gets what he deserves; the ability to go home without persecution. Because without a doubt, he did the right thing. 


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I guess you think the American Revolution was pointless and stupid too right? You must be sick to your stomach knowing that countries came together to oppose Nazi Germany too.
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 12:45 AM ( #12 )
I think it is all a ploy by Valve and this is actually just marketing for Half Life 3.

I mean, he basically looks like Freeman, and the NSA are pretty much the Overwatch.
It's no coincidence that this happens right after the next-gen is announced. 



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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 1:19 AM ( #13 )
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Don't care.



Then you are an idiot. 

Let me iterate. It may seem like "Oh well I have nothing to hide, why should I care?" Well this is the exact idiocy that will get you thrown in jail. Why? Think of it like this. The government sets up a nation-wide surveillance to monitor its citizens, eventually, another president decides to start arresting people who don't agree with his radical views. Well, since you "didn't care" about the NSA spying, you have already mentioned how you dont like the president, you disagree with his ideas and whatnot. Well guess what? a few days later, your door is being busted down, you are arrested on terrorism charges, thrown in Guantanamo without trial (which someone can grab the link for me to prove this is already happening) where you rot for the rest of your foresaken life.

Welcome to the beginning of Nazi Germany



Sounds farfethced? Its not, Look at the GOP and their war on the uterus. If a presidential candidate can be that radicalized and still get nearly half of the populations vote.. You are royally ****ed simply because you dont care.
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 1:26 AM ( #14 )
Doesn't make a diffirence to me. I follow the laws, if "Nazi Germany" is coming back, so be it. Not much we can do in all honesty. 

"Reset the clock"

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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 1:29 AM ( #15 )
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Doesn't make a diffirence to me. I follow the laws, if "Nazi Germany" is coming back, so be it. Not much we can do in all honesty. 

"Reset the clock"



And you live in the US. Who has told you that nothing can be done? Things can be done, you and your country are so ****ing fat and lazy, as long as they can get their mcdonalds in their electric scooter they dont care if their own house is taken away. Stop using the general populations logic and use your own. Things can be changed, but only if you try, like Snowden.
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 1:53 AM ( #16 )
AuToFiRE


UnagiMaster


Doesn't make a diffirence to me. I follow the laws, if "Nazi Germany" is coming back, so be it. Not much we can do in all honesty. 

"Reset the clock"



And you live in the US. Who has told you that nothing can be done? Things can be done, you and your country are so ****ing fat and lazy, as long as they can get their mcdonalds in their electric scooter they dont care if their own house is taken away. Stop using the general populations logic and use your own. Things can be changed, but only if you try, like Snowden.



I believe things can be changed.


But I'm realistic and unless the government goes batsh*t the majority of the US populous is not going to take up arms. I'm content, i don't see the HUGE deal. I mean go ahead and release all the information you want, he knew the risks and i applaud him, but little to nothing will change.


Fight for what you believe in, but don't expect change.

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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 2:02 AM ( #17 )
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UnagiMaster


Doesn't make a diffirence to me. I follow the laws, if "Nazi Germany" is coming back, so be it. Not much we can do in all honesty. 

"Reset the clock"



And you live in the US. Who has told you that nothing can be done? Things can be done, you and your country are so ****ing fat and lazy, as long as they can get their mcdonalds in their electric scooter they dont care if their own house is taken away. Stop using the general populations logic and use your own. Things can be changed, but only if you try, like Snowden.



I believe things can be changed.


But I'm realistic and unless the government goes batsh*t the majority of the US populous is not going to take up arms. I'm content, i don't see the HUGE deal. I mean go ahead and release all the information you want, he knew the risks and i applaud him, but little to nothing will change.


Fight for what you believe in, but don't expect change.



The problem is, the government is bat**** nuts, we just dont see it because it always has been for us, a person who has never been out of the city will never know of the great forests beyond so to say. We are being brainwashed into thinking its not out of control, that its not corrupt and looking to kill us all. 



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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 2:26 AM ( #18 )
Someone else besides me should do something about whatever situation this is concerning.

Yeah.
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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 6:02 AM ( #19 )

http://rt.com/usa/snowden...e-sanction-graham-598/






http://www.reuters.com/ar...-idUSBRE96O18220130725

I'll update the OP  as well, but it seems some 

members of the Senate want to sanction ANY nation willingly aiding Snowden's  escape.    
Political racketeering much.






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Re:N4G'S Verdict on Snowden - Friday, July 26, 2013 6:39 AM ( #20 )
AuToFiRE


UnagiMaster


Doesn't make a diffirence to me. I follow the laws, if "Nazi Germany" is coming back, so be it. Not much we can do in all honesty. 

"Reset the clock"



And you live in the US. Who has told you that nothing can be done? Things can be done, you and your country are so ****ing fat and lazy, as long as they can get their mcdonalds in their electric scooter they dont care if their own house is taken away. Stop using the general populations logic and use your own. Things can be changed, but only if you try, like Snowden.



Wow. What a way to generalize every american while using general population logic, hypocritically. Not everyone holds this view. Also Canada is not that far off. Pretty sure 2013 statistics for canada's obesity is at an all time high with 1/4 being obese.

Anyways my feeling on this that they should develop a way to filter this. For example their database should not gather data on someone unless they meet certain criteria EX- they use the word bomb in a certain context or phrase that is unusual. This may not catch everything but if terrorist are using codes, I doubt we have amazing code breaking software that can sift through tons of data. I understand we live in a dangerous world so things like this are an inevitability but it's not worth the infringement. 


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