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GiggMan

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900p on my TV? - Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:29 PM ( #1 )
With seemingly more console  games getting announced with "900p" resolution, does anyone know how that translate to a 1080p TV set? 

I have a fairly new Samsung 1080p 3D Smart TV. When I fire up my PS3 the UI is in 1080p. When I start a game the set switches to 720p. When I watch HD channels through my cable provider I get mostly 1080i and 720p. I have never seen a 900p native setting (seriously don't think it exist).

So... For playing a game that are native 900p will a TV upscale to 1080p or downscale (or whatever it's called) to 720p?

Does anyone know or have any ideas? Just curious.
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Re:900p on my TV? - Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:36 PM ( #2 )
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With seemingly more console  games getting announced with "900p" resolution, does anyone know how that translate to a 1080p TV set? 

I have a fairly new Samsung 1080p 3D Smart TV. When I fire up my PS3 the UI is in 1080p. When I start a game the set switches to 720p. When I watch HD channels through my cable provider I get mostly 1080i and 720p. I have never seen a 900p native setting (seriously don't think it exist).

So... For playing a game that are native 900p will a TV upscale to 1080p or downscale (or whatever it's called) to 720p?

Does anyone know or have any ideas? Just curious.





900p games will upscale to 1080p, but they wont look as good as real 1080p games. Upscaling always reduces image quality a bit.
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:42 AM ( #3 )

With seemingly more console games getting announced with "900p" resolution, does anyone know how that translate to a 1080p TV set? I have a fairly new Samsung 1080p 3D Smart TV. When I fire up my PS3 the UI is in 1080p. When I start a game the set switches to 720p. When I watch HD channels through my cable provider I get mostly 1080i and 720p. I have never seen a 900p native setting (seriously don't think it exist). So... For playing a game that are native 900p will a TV upscale to 1080p or downscale (or whatever it's called) to 720p? Does anyone know or have any ideas? Just curious.
Depends on how big your TV is and how far you view it from. 1080p, 720p etc is irrelevant if your screen is less than 42" and you're not even sat at an optimal distance.

Not exactly what you asked I know but so many people get caught up in the whole 1080p debacle when they don't really have a setup to notice a real difference.
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:09 AM ( #4 )
Thanks for the replies. I was hoping it would upscale to 1080p. All my current gen games play in 720p (I'm guessing they are upscaled too technically because most are sup 720p).

@Caseh I have a 55' TV I probably sit about 6 or 7 feet from it.
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:15 AM ( #5 )
caseh



With seemingly more console games getting announced with "900p" resolution, does anyone know how that translate to a 1080p TV set? I have a fairly new Samsung 1080p 3D Smart TV. When I fire up my PS3 the UI is in 1080p. When I start a game the set switches to 720p. When I watch HD channels through my cable provider I get mostly 1080i and 720p. I have never seen a 900p native setting (seriously don't think it exist). So... For playing a game that are native 900p will a TV upscale to 1080p or downscale (or whatever it's called) to 720p? Does anyone know or have any ideas? Just curious.
Depends on how big your TV is and how far you view it from. 1080p, 720p etc is irrelevant if your screen is less than 42" and you're not even sat at an optimal distance.

Not exactly what you asked I know but so many people get caught up in the whole 1080p debacle when they don't really have a setup to notice a real difference.



You need a 42" screen to notice that something is running at over double the resolution?  What is the point of a huge TV if you are going to sit really far away from it?
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:36 AM ( #6 )
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caseh



With seemingly more console games getting announced with "900p" resolution, does anyone know how that translate to a 1080p TV set? I have a fairly new Samsung 1080p 3D Smart TV. When I fire up my PS3 the UI is in 1080p. When I start a game the set switches to 720p. When I watch HD channels through my cable provider I get mostly 1080i and 720p. I have never seen a 900p native setting (seriously don't think it exist). So... For playing a game that are native 900p will a TV upscale to 1080p or downscale (or whatever it's called) to 720p? Does anyone know or have any ideas? Just curious.
Depends on how big your TV is and how far you view it from. 1080p, 720p etc is irrelevant if your screen is less than 42" and you're not even sat at an optimal distance.

Not exactly what you asked I know but so many people get caught up in the whole 1080p debacle when they don't really have a setup to notice a real difference.



You need a 42" screen to notice that something is running at over double the resolution?  What is the point of a huge TV if you are going to sit really far away from it?



People keep saying this, which is contradicting the existence of the 2560 x 1440 27" monitors floating around.
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:41 PM ( #7 )
Y'all know it's more about pixel pitch and density at this point.

Furthermore, be it a matter of preference but resolutions beyond 1080p? I'm really not sold in 4k until we have IPS 99%RGB as a standard, or real 1:1 LEDs, or 1ms response, I mean, given certain point in resolution, other factors in IQ are more important, to me at least...remember the first generation HD ready LCDs? yeah... those were "HD"...yet they were atrocious scaling any content, had poor blacks, 55% color reproduction, limited view angle...

Resolution is overrated, I'd rather keep on waiting.

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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:49 PM ( #8 )
From what I've read, I've been under the impression that the response times of most monitors nowadays is a negligible factor because they're all so low (2 - 5 ms), and also because the advertised response time is at peak performance, so actual response times will be way different from whatever the manufacturers telling you anyway.
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:55 PM ( #9 )
i dunno man, seeing 4k tv's at best buy was eye opening.


All work and no play.. makes odion go something something
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:26 PM ( #10 )
MidnytRain


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caseh



With seemingly more console games getting announced with "900p" resolution, does anyone know how that translate to a 1080p TV set? I have a fairly new Samsung 1080p 3D Smart TV. When I fire up my PS3 the UI is in 1080p. When I start a game the set switches to 720p. When I watch HD channels through my cable provider I get mostly 1080i and 720p. I have never seen a 900p native setting (seriously don't think it exist). So... For playing a game that are native 900p will a TV upscale to 1080p or downscale (or whatever it's called) to 720p? Does anyone know or have any ideas? Just curious.
Depends on how big your TV is and how far you view it from. 1080p, 720p etc is irrelevant if your screen is less than 42" and you're not even sat at an optimal distance.

Not exactly what you asked I know but so many people get caught up in the whole 1080p debacle when they don't really have a setup to notice a real difference.



You need a 42" screen to notice that something is running at over double the resolution?  What is the point of a huge TV if you are going to sit really far away from it?



People keep saying this, which is contradicting the existence of the 2560 x 1440 27" monitors floating around.



It depends on your eyesight really. Also note that the distances that companies use to measure the eye's ability to resolve pixels actually underestimates the eye's capabilities. for instance at 8 feet a 40in 1080p tv vs a 40in 4k tv, the 4k will look sharper, but you still will not be able to see the 1080p tv's pixels, but you can see the difference.

This article is about tablets and phones, but the same principle applies.
http://www.cultofmac.com/173702/why-retina-isnt-enough-feature/
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Re:900p on my TV? - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:27 PM ( #11 )
Well, look at it this way, if you've got a powerful GPU it does make sense to go beyond up to 4k, otherwise, the content won't precisely benefit from it, I mean, not every content will benefit from a higher res device, but a better color reproduction, response time and superior display technology (IPS, OLED) will positively affect all content.

Just a matter of opinion though, needless to say.
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