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xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 14:46:12

Farsendor1

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if anybodys games are getting scratched and you dont know how they are heres a link and some info

later on in the video we find out that the 360 has no rubber around the lens like regular dvd players

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQYkaXv8RU

was just looking it up on youtube i have been looking for more info on it since im considering to buy one but im still unsure im afraid it will mess up on me.

if anyone has any info for a dude hoping to get a 360 without failure give me some info i would like to get one in time for gears of war 2.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 14:47:40

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Suck it up, Don't believe the hype. If it F's up on you send it to MS have it fixed in 3 weeks and play your PS3 while it is gone. Simple really.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 14:48:46

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It seems like when they get scratched it's from people kicking it or moving it while the disc is playing. I keep mine horizontal and have had no problems.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 14:50:56

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I have a tip...don't move the 360 when the disc is spinning...hence no scratching

Anyway buy a 360 and enjoy the games

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 14:52:36

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That was actually interesting to watch, but it seems th scratching problem stopped so that won't happen on new models, but there is still fear of RROD.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 14:56:16

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So according to that video, every single xbox 360 owner should have scratched discs the first time they start playing. WTF?? I mean why would it happen to only a few and not all if that video is true? That vibration thing sounds bogus as well.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:24:21

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I remember this from ages ago. Im sure MS would have done something about it now.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:29:19

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quote:

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if anybodys games are getting scratched and you dont know how they are heres a link and some info

later on in the video we find out that the 360 has no rubber around the lens like regular dvd players

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQYkaXv8RU

was just looking it up on youtube i have been looking for more info on it since im considering to buy one but im still unsure im afraid it will mess up on me.

if anyone has any info for a dude hoping to get a 360 without failure give me some info i would like to get one in time for gears of war 2.

DUDE THAT'S OLD OLD OLD

The problem was with the Toshiba/Samsung drives. Toshiba/Samsung for real forgot to make the rubber bumpers around the laser/lens of the DVD drive they sold to Microsoft.

That drive isn't used anymore since about the beginning of 2007. Hitachi has rubber bumpers, the BenQ drive that replaced the T/S and Hitachi both has rubber bumpers, the new Lite On drive has rubber bumpers (BenQ&Lite On are both from Philips).

Everyone that read a bit into this, already knew the missing rubber bumpers in the T/S drive was the problem... Drives got switched when send in for Hitachi or lateron BenQ, now Lite On.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:34:02

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"It has a wireless controller, so once you've loaded the CD there's no need to go near the machine again"

lol

You have to go near it again to change discs...

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:36:14

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I have a tip...don't move the 360 when the disc is spinning...hence no scratching

Anyway buy a 360 and enjoy the games

Who would move their 360 while playing a game? Give me one scenerio where this would happen.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:38:22

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quote:

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I have a tip...don't move the 360 when the disc is spinning...hence no scratching

Anyway buy a 360 and enjoy the games

Who would move their 360 while playing a game? Give me one scenerio where this would happen.

do you really want me to go find all the articles on N4G that say people had scratched discs and the reason was people moving them etc..actually you can look yourself

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:46:00

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheMART at Xboxkings

quote:

ORIGINAL: Farsendor1

if anybodys games are getting scratched and you dont know how they are heres a link and some info

later on in the video we find out that the 360 has no rubber around the lens like regular dvd players

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQYkaXv8RU

was just looking it up on youtube i have been looking for more info on it since im considering to buy one but im still unsure im afraid it will mess up on me.

if anyone has any info for a dude hoping to get a 360 without failure give me some info i would like to get one in time for gears of war 2.

DUDE THAT'S OLD OLD OLD

The problem was with the Toshiba/Samsung drives. Toshiba/Samsung for real forgot to make the rubber bumpers around the laser/lens of the DVD drive they sold to Microsoft.

That drive isn't used anymore since about the beginning of 2007. Hitachi has rubber bumpers, the BenQ drive that replaced the T/S and Hitachi both has rubber bumpers, the new Lite On drive has rubber bumpers (BenQ&Lite On are both from Philips).

Everyone that read a bit into this, already knew the missing rubber bumpers in the T/S drive was the problem... Drives got switched when send in for Hitachi or lateron BenQ, now Lite On.

Rockstar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:47:00

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Don't buy a 360. It is garbage.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:48:30

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Don't buy a 360. It is garbage.

are u serious?

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 15:49:53

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quote:

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Don't buy a 360. It is garbage.

are u serious?

Of course I am.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 16:02:22

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yeah i seen the video was wrong but a lot of people still complaining so i just figured it might be same problem i don't know much about that tech stuff i just want to play games but no i do not think a 360 is garbage it has a lot of good games on it.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 16:40:56

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quote:

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yeah i seen the video was wrong but a lot of people still complaining so i just figured it might be same problem i don't know much about that tech stuff i just want to play games but no i do not think a 360 is garbage it has a lot of good games on it.

Best advice I can give you is to go ahead purchase the 360 and enjoy the games. Dont worry about rrod or disc scratching they are a thing of the past. But if you do worry about it , remember that its a free repair if it were to be broken but it will most likely not happen.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 16:46:36

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yeah i seen the video was wrong but a lot of people still complaining so i just figured it might be same problem i don't know much about that tech stuff i just want to play games but no i do not think a 360 is garbage it has a lot of good games on it.

Best advice I can give you is to go ahead purchase the 360 and enjoy the games. Dont worry about rrod or disc scratching they are a thing of the past. But if you do worry about it , remember that its a free repair if it were to be broken but it will most likely not happen.

To clarify that: after august/september 2007 Microsoft switched totally from T/S and Hitachi drives to Philips/BenQ ones. All with rubber bumpers (Hitachi also had them BTW). From 1st April 2008 Philips/Lite On drives have been produced, used mostly in 360's with MFR date from May 2008 and after.

About overheating: since May 2007 Microsoft uses the extra heatsink on the GPU that takes the heath away faster from the chip&motherboard. After about august/september they also introduced the 65nm CPU compared to the 90nm CPU. The 90nm 360 used 203 watt, the 65nm 360 uses 175 watt. Less poweruse, less heat.

Thus to be save: buy a 360 with MFR Date from October 2007 and after. You'll have the latest drive with rubber bumpers, 65nm CPU.

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 16:53:58

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I have a tip...don't move the 360 when the disc is spinning...hence no scratching

Anyway buy a 360 and enjoy the games

Who would move their 360 while playing a game? Give me one scenerio where this would happen.

When i had a 360 i was playing gears of war. Someone wanted to pass by so i picked up the 360 and moved it so the could get by. I did this all the time with my ps2 so really didn't see why i shouldn't. Anyway, thats what happened and gears cd go scratched to the fact that 360 couldn't even recognize it anymore. It was taking me to this funny screen and telling me how the cd isn't compatible with 360

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RE: xbox 360 game scratching explained - Aug.-18th-2008 17:18:35

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ORIGINAL: Proxy

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ORIGINAL: predator

I have a tip...don't move the 360 when the disc is spinning...hence no scratching

Anyway buy a 360 and enjoy the games

Who would move their 360 while playing a game? Give me one scenerio where this would happen.

When i had a 360 i was playing gears of war. Someone wanted to pass by so i picked up the 360 and moved it so the could get by. I did this all the time with my ps2 so really didn't see why i shouldn't. Anyway, thats what happened and gears cd go scratched to the fact that 360 couldn't even recognize it anymore. It was taking me to this funny screen and telling me how the cd isn't compatible with 360

Sounding pretty strange to me. You have your console standing in the path people are walking??? I have my consoles standing on shelves. Why would you even let a console stand or lay on the floor? That way it really becomes a dust magnet.

Anyway, anyone lifting up consoles with discs that spin with many RPM up and moving it is a moron. Even if it is because 'someone wanted to pass by'. That actually sounds really really dumb. Couldn't they just walk around it, or just step over it? It is almost sounding like a made up story really. And if it isn't you should buy yourself a descent TV stand with room for consoles to fit in/on.

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